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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.08 18:32:00 -
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FF ON.
This is the community consensus. Given the type of player that is attracted to DUST, EVE, New Eden it's unimaginable that when the game goes live, FF is disabled. It will pollute people's idea of what New Eden is. It will send the wrong message to visitors during their very first moments in New Eden.
We know why: CCP doesn't want team griefing to ruin the new player experience in hisec pub matches.
Our job as Beta testers is twofold:
- We need to make sure that CCP gets the message re FF ON. Loud and clear. Give CCP your opinion, and tell them why you feel that way. Make it short, sweet and to the point.
- We need to throw alternative ideas at CCP. Good, bad, half-baked - doesn't matter. The other peeps on this forum or CCP themselves will refine your idea if it has merit, or hybridize it with somebody else's idea or use the two ideas to synthesize a whole new and better way of looking at the problem. The point is, if FF ON is important to you, you gotta think of a way to solve the FF griefing problem and then tell CCP about it.
My proposed solution is this:
- Any merc must be able to kill any other merc in any situation. That's New Eden.
- FF-Team and FF-Squad kills on every merc's public record. Let the solution to team killers come from the community.
- Allow squad leaders to set a FF-to-Enemies killed auto-reject filter for squad membership.
- No warpoints ofc for FF kills. Tempted to ask for a WP penalty but something doesn't smell right about that approach - can't verbalize it right now.
My merc hates rules so I'm gonna stop there. New Eden is no place for unnecessary rules. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.08 22:38:00 -
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In reading all of these great ideas, I think maybe the teamkilling mechanic I was to see is this:
- Any merc must be able to kill any other merc in any situation. That's New Eden.
- FF-Team and FF-Squad kills on every merc's public record. Let the solution to team killers come from the community.
- Teamkilling drops your security status, and eventually pushes you out to losec, then nullsec. What you have to do to grind it back up i don't care, so long as it is a grind.
VTK(Vote-To-Kick) systems are easy to abuse, don't like the idea of new players getting kicked from squads for whatever arbitrary reason. Maybe a 1 minute vote window for a certain amount of teamkilling, maybe modified by the player's teamkilling history. If the poor merc wasn't doing it intentionally you'd be doing them a favor kicking them before their security status dropped too low. The game could autosend a mail saying 'you were vote-kicked by your squadmates for TKing'.
Mag is the best example I know of that has FF on, and TKing isn't really much of a problem there, even in pub matches. MAG does have a VTK system, tho, and i'm sure the TKers know it. |
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