DUST Search - My take on Strafing...

Crimson MoonV wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

Icy Tiger wrote:

Logi Bro wrote:

That was actually two and a half lines.
I would like to hear your definition of strafing before I try to mock you.

Being able to move left and right at a moderate rate, while still being able to fire.

Alright, here I go:
If by move left and right you mean being able to change course on a dime to the opposite direction you were previously moving and retain all of your speed by defying the laws of physics, then considered yourself mocked.

If you simply mean walking side to side, by which you would likely make yourself look like an idiot if you did so in real life and get yourself killed, then feel free to do so to your hearts content.

Either way, it doesn't really make sense from my point of view to strafe.

It doesn't make any sense to track your targets by strafing? Roll

It doesn't make any sense to come around a corner strafing? Roll

It doesn't make any sense to strafe so a sniper can't hit you while you drop him? Roll

What, do you just stand there and hold R1. Do we need to teach you people how to play fps.


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Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 04:25:00 - [1] - Quote That was actually two and a half lines. I would like to hear your definition of strafing before I try to mock you.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 04:38:00 - [2] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Logi Bro wrote: That was actually two and a half lines. I would like to hear your definition of strafing before I try to mock you. Being able to move left and right at a moderate rate, while still being able to fire. Alright, here I go: If by move left and right you mean being able to change course on a dime to the opposite direction you were previously moving and retain all of your speed by defying the laws of physics, then considered yourself mocked. If you simply mean walking side to side, by which you would likely make yourself look like an idiot if you did so in real life and get yourself killed, then feel free to do so to your hearts content. Either way, it doesn't really make sense from my point of view to strafe.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 04:55:00 - [3] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Logi Bro wrote: That was actually two and a half lines. I would like to hear your definition of strafing before I try to mock you. Being able to move left and right at a moderate rate, while still being able to fire. Alright, here I go: If by move left and right you mean being able to change course on a dime to the opposite direction you were previously moving and retain all of your speed by defying the laws of physics, then considered yourself mocked. If you simply mean walking side to side, by which you would likely make yourself look like an idiot if you did so in real life and get yourself killed, then feel free to do so to your hearts content. Either way, it doesn't really make sense from my point of view to strafe. Counter Strike, Halo, Planet side all have some form of strafing. This is more like BF3 or CoD, where its point, shoot, and guaranteed kill, unless equipment matters. I'm not talking about realism as you point out, the important thing is gameplay. Honestly, I haven't played any of the first three games you mentioned, though I have a moderate degree of experience with the second two, and I happen to notice they are immensely popular games, much more so than what I've heard of CS, Halo, or PS. Yes, it is true that sales are not the mark of a great game, but they have to be doing something right to get people to keep coming back.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 04:58:00 - [4] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Icy Tiger wrote: Logi Bro wrote: That was actually two and a half lines. I would like to hear your definition of strafing before I try to mock you. Being able to move left and right at a moderate rate, while still being able to fire. Alright, here I go: If by move left and right you mean being able to change course on a dime to the opposite direction you were previously moving and retain all of your speed by defying the laws of physics, then considered yourself mocked. If you simply mean walking side to side, by which you would likely make yourself look like an idiot if you did so in real life and get yourself killed, then feel free to do so to your hearts content. Either way, it doesn't really make sense from my point of view to strafe. It doesn't make any sense to track your targets by strafing? It doesn't make any sense to come around a corner strafing? It doesn't make any sense to strafe so a sniper can't hit you while you drop him? What, do you just stand there and hold R1. Do we need to teach you people how to play fps. Hmph, did I say that I stand still? I asked his definition of strafing because different people have different definitions of strafe. Mine is when a person simply moves-quickly or slowly-in a direction perpendicular to the direction they are facing. I do this, though his definition seems to what I call zig-zagging, which, as I said, doesn't make sense to me.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 05:07:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: When you just strafe one way you make yourself incredibly easy to track. Why would you play like that bro. Just because it doesn't make any sense to you? Its a legit tactic. Maybe I haven't made this clear enough. I use cover, I use my definition of strafing, I use what I like to call gungame. It involves using more than a single tactic to win a fight, and your definition of strafing is exactly what my gungame is not: a single tactic. If you can just step side to side to dodge the majority of bullets whilst spraying bullets into your target with perfect accuracy, your "legit tactic" is overpowered.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 05:15:00 - [6] - Quote Aighun wrote: Do you hate science fiction? Super soldiers? Or video games? Or even basketball? Cause a good guard can move left, then right, then left again really fast while still dribbling the ball. It is like, they totally defy physics or something. You people are really making it hard to respond to the massive amount of your hateful and ignorant comments. -Science fiction, I bolded the part you should look at. -Super soldiers, look back up at that bolded word. -Basketball, do you know what a feint is? It's making it look as if you will move in a direction and then moving in the opposite, not building up a massive amount of speed and momentum, then instantly moving in the opposite direction whilst retaining all your speed, that is defying physics. Are you wondering why I though the fiction part was important even though we are playing a fictitious game? I will go along the lines of another comment I saw once in a different thread: Though this is fiction, we still are able to fight on the planets because gravity holds us down. We wear dropsuits because we are not immune to bullets. When I run into a wall, I get stopped, because physics say I do, even in this fictitious video game. We are still abiding by physics, and the physics don't add up here.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 05:25:00 - [7] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: When you just strafe one way you make yourself incredibly easy to track. Why would you play like that bro. Just because it doesn't make any sense to you? Its a legit tactic. Maybe I haven't made this clear enough. I use cover, I use my definition of strafing, I use what I like to call gungame. It involves using more than a single tactic to win a fight, and your definition of strafing is exactly what my gungame is not: a single tactic. If you can just step side to side to dodge the majority of bullets whilst spraying bullets into your target with perfect accuracy, your "legit tactic" is overpowered. I only strafe in certain engagements. I adapt to all situations. If I can strafe and still hit the other person with all my bullets its because I am better then the other person. Not because my tactics are overpowered. I got a good laugh out of hearing you say that though. Did you read my comment? Your response made no sense at all. Let me simplify what I said before. I don't like strafing because to both defies the laws of physics and allows people to be uber powerful by using a single tactic. Why use cover when you can just dodge the bullets right? Why get out of the enemies line of sight to recharge your shields when they never get depleted in the first place? Why should accuracy matter when you have all the time in the world to reload and spray a full clip into your enemy again and again because they can't hit you? I'll even make a TL;DR for you: Strafing is a single tactic, and will outplay complex tactics. Here's a TL;DR for my TL;DR: Strafing=bad
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 05:30:00 - [8] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: where is the "cover" people keep talking about? I don't see "cover" on open maps. Ohh your just camping like a little fuckboy I lol'd at this. Cover is everywhere, you are blind if you can't see it.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.07 05:42:00 - [9] - Quote Alright, this is my last post here, this has gone on for too long. Maybe you forgot, but Dust 514 was supposed to be unique, so who says it's too late to remove strafing? CCP certainly disagrees with you, since they just nerfed it big-time. Speaking of physics, please think about all the things that defy physics in this game. Don't bother with the whole shields idea, as they actually come up with an explanation for that in the lore. Methinks you won't come up with a large number of things, because physics DO exist in this game, despite being a fiction game. At protoman, I laughed so hard at that comment, please keep it up, I could use a little laugh every now and then. I seem to remember you using tanks in the past, and those are just massive bunkers(bunkers are considered cover by the way) that have massive guns on them, so the irony is practically tangible. Points for you if your brain can comprehend tangible.