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Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:10:00 -
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I am surprised that I haven't seen anyone else use this on Dust, it is an amazing weapon, like a fast firing, high damage assault rifle with large mags. It is really good and you can take out scouts/assaults in just 1-2 seconds of firing. |
Gcember
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:12:00 -
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Let the OP discussion begin! |
Monocle Cognac
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:13:00 -
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The damage increases over time too. Makes me wonder if a high level laser rifle could have AV applications as well. I was in a match where a player was using it to take out a turret. He said it worked surprisingly well. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:20:00 -
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I think the proto one could be used av, not as well as proto av of course.
The damage is also higher at range, point it at a turret and walk forward in ads, the efficency listed will be at 100%(if shields are up) at max range and drop as you walk forward. So, when it days mid range weapon it means midrange only, the ar says mid to short.
I think it's well balanced for new weapon type just appearing. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:23:00 -
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All I know is that the proto one has been known for stripping shileds off light vehicles. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:24:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:
I think it's well balanced for new weapon type just appearing.
This. The fact that not everyone is using them, but at least some people are is a good sign, especially since they just came out. It'll be interesting to see how the weapon develops once people get more used to optimal distance for damage and the introduction of some proto laser guns on the battlefield. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:26:00 -
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Hosing down a group from the rear of your line using their scary accuracy and letting the AR and sub carriers finish them off is a good strat. Laser rifles are a good long range logi weapon, IMO.
Laser rifle is meant to be part of a balanced attack - It could use some sort of something, tho.
Maybe it should cause DoT if damage is maintained for a time. Something... |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:29:00 -
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I currently use it for Assault, reading your reply is it meant for logistics? |
Lonewolf514
79
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:31:00 -
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**** stolen weapon from quake no wonder noone mentions it. ffs make up your own. how about a shocklance? needs a good engine i bet. or a slightly compatent one. |
BobThe843CakeMan
BurgezzE.T.F
132
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:33:00 -
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laser rifles blowing up turrets and lavs? They can barely kill my dropsuit. Lol no hate just stating a fact. or at least tht was in my expierence while being shot by them. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:38:00 -
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I think they'd be pretty nasty on a heavy with a couple of damage extenders, the only problem is the lack of a nano hive. If you run with a dedicated squad though, it could be really deadly. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
414
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:38:00 -
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The proto does 33% more damage, and takes longer to overheat, since it causes more damage the longer its fired it will do even higher damage. It is also better at taking down shields then armour. At close range vs a heavy the butt of the gun is probably a better weapon, but at limit of range vs a shield it is great.
They may not blow up lav, but they could take down shield of a shield tanked on so a mass driver can blow it up. |
Goat of Dover
Shadow Company HQ
161
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:44:00 -
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Isn't that like in EVE where lasers are good against shields and rockets good against armor. |
crazy space
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
879
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Posted - 2012.10.05 21:52:00 -
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it's fine, but it shouldn't use ammo. Lasers don't use ammo it's one of the advantages they have. Just have over heat and it's fine. That would make the weapon more useful.
Or have 100 ammo be the max so you have to reload, but the ammo is endless. Or add a cystal with a % bar. The more you fire the more damage the laser crystal takes? |
Villore Isu
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:04:00 -
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crazy space wrote:it's fine, but it shouldn't use ammo. Lasers don't use ammo it's one of the advantages they have. Just have over heat and it's fine. That would make the weapon more useful.
Or have 100 ammo be the max so you have to reload, but the ammo is endless. Or add a cystal with a % bar. The more you fire the more damage the laser crystal takes?
Batteries. Lasers need lots of power, and the best source of compact, mobile power is batteries (which have a finite amount of it) |
E-Dino
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:32:00 -
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Indeed shooting LAV drivers out of their driver seat is very fun. Even better when you can kill both dropship gunners leaving the drop ship useless. |
La Fortune
Terranauts
36
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:50:00 -
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I'd say 90% of my kills so far have been with the laser rifle. As long as you keep at range it's a beast of a weapon, melting people in seconds with pinpoint accuracy. I've taken quite a few AR users and snipers by surprise with it.
Just don't use it on anyone within AR range... but that's what scram pistols are for  |
Typo Name
78
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Posted - 2012.10.05 22:54:00 -
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I love laser rifles. I don't use them, but they point out really well where everyone is in case I'm looking for targets to snipe. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.10.05 23:04:00 -
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It needs a range boost, its effective range is close to the range an assault rifle can reach, and assault rifles are extremely effective killing machines (more so than the laser rifle). The range where you are safe from assault rifles AND can actually kill someone is pretty small.
Al alternative to boosting range might be to make it just as good in close range, but I would prefer it just getting higher range, |
m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
22
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Posted - 2012.10.06 13:05:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:It needs a range boost, its effective range is close to the range an assault rifle can reach, and assault rifles are extremely effective killing machines (more so than the laser rifle). The range where you are safe from assault rifles AND can actually kill someone is pretty small.
Al alternative to boosting range might be to make it just as good in close range, but I would prefer it just getting higher range,
the laser rifles seem to have a fixed base max range at least for the Basic and Advanced models with Lightweapon Sharpshooter at lvl 3 they both come in at 97m - at the same skill level a Gek-38's max range is 96m Killswitch Gek 106m |
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