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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:

Dewie Cheecham wrote:

Rasatsu wrote:

So much tears for some beta deaths.

Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that?

The fact that we're taking on proto-fitted players & taking them out (even if we aren't winning) speaks volumes about the balance in the game. Clearly a baseline level of skill is required to be able to play at all.
High risk, high reward. The ISK you get at the end of the match is determined partially by the value of targets that you destroy. Proto suit are higher value targets.
Everything is fun about it. If you want a choose your own adventure movie, go pick up a shooter with a story line. We write our own kittening story in this game. So today's story can be "The Day CCP Said I Hate You By Giving Noobs Proto Gear To Own Us With" or it can be "Look At All Off The Kittening Money I Made Off Of The Proto Noobs".
And now you know how a new player coming late to the game might feel if we don't balance things properly.

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Ieukoplast Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:03:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, I love playing against people in RUSSIA who are all given proto suits, weapons and gear. Let them play against eachother, not against those of us in the beta. Not only is there severe lag issues to deal with here (US players going against players in Russia... do the math), but they all have freaking proto weapon and dropsuits. What the heck CCP? At the very least limit them to play against other Russian beta players, not those of us on the other side of the world.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:04:00 - [2] - Quote So much tears for some beta deaths.
aden slayer ZionTCD Legacy Rising 407	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:05:00 - [3] - Quote Complaints. Complaints everywhere........
Seran Jinkar Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 214	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:15:00 - [4] - Quote LOL! I actually thought they were some kind of Bots before I chekced the forum ^^ Even though they have proto equipment, most are rather some kind of cannon fodder ...
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:17:00 - [5] - Quote yeah most of them werent great when i played them, but there are a few running around with creodon shotties who know what they are doing
Wolf Ritter vonKaldari Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 97	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:17:00 - [6] - Quote Are you for real? Dude I'm making bank off these guys. Run ******* militia and if you're any good you'll be making 600-900k ISK a game. Don't be mad cuz you ain't got no gun game and get pwned by a newbie, the prototype gear is just an excuse for your ineptitude.
Ieukoplast Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:21:00 - [7] - Quote aden slayer wrote: Complaints. Complaints everywhere........ Without complaints, nothing would ever get fixed/solved. But really, this is ridiculous. I am lucky to play a handful of non glitched out matches in a night, I don't want to have to deal with this as well. I spend most of my night restarting the game over and over and over just so I can have the opportunity to join ONE match without any major issues. To finally land in a match that isn't plagued by frame-rate issues is practically a miracle. So far tonight, it has been plagued by igromir players who are all proto'ed out, which I stand absolutely no chance against unless they are REALLY bad players. Not to mention the lag difference, as I'm sure they have priority since the devs want to leave a good impression for them.
Ieukoplast Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:24:00 - [8] - Quote Wolf Ritter vonKaldari wrote: Are you for real? Dude I'm making bank off these guys. Run ******* militia and if you're any good you'll be making 600-900k ISK a game. Don't be mad cuz you ain't got no gun game and get pwned by a newbie, the prototype gear is just an excuse for your ineptitude. Dude I played with you tonight, you went like 0-20. See, I can make up stuff too.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:28:00 - [9] - Quote Wolf Ritter vonKaldari wrote: Are you for real? Dude I'm making bank off these guys. Run ******* militia and if you're any good you'll be making 600-900k ISK a game. Don't be mad cuz you ain't got no gun game and get pwned by a newbie, the prototype gear is just an excuse for your ineptitude. i got close to this amount playing these guys , stop moaning for the sake of moaning
Wolf Ritter vonKaldari Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 97	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:31:00 - [10] - Quote Ieukoplast wrote: See, I can make up stuff too. Oh you can make up stuff that's for sure, but me and my buddy having been duoing them and making >500k ISK per match. If deluding yourself makes you feel better, go for it. The rest of us will be making **** tons of cash off them.

Ieukoplast Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:34:00 - [11] - Quote Wolf Ritter vonKaldari wrote: Ieukoplast wrote: See, I can make up stuff too. Oh you can make up stuff that's for sure, but me and my buddy having been duoing them and making >500k ISK per match. If deluding yourself makes you feel better, go for it. The rest of us will be making **** tons of cash off them. lol, right.... >500k. I doubt you are making 1/4 of that on a good night.
Seamie Schmoove Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 64	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:39:00 - [12] - Quote Gimme a few mins...ill get you a picture lad...I've got 4 mil Isk in the bank off 2nite....and I ain't stopping
Dewie Cheecham Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 677	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:45:00 - [13] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that?
Encharrion L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 104	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:50:00 - [14] - Quote I'm totally fine with playing against these players, it's a challenge and makes me lots of ISK.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2012.10.05 08:52:00 - [15] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that? It's not like they're any better than your regular randoms. Plus, you get a ton of ISK from them.
Ieukoplast Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 169	Posted - 2012.10.05 09:02:00 - [16] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that? The contrast between is laughable, in a sad way. I was just playing against more igromir players, me and another had weakened this ones guys shields and armor down to virtually nothing.... well, in about 1-2 seconds (literally) the guy already had full armor and shields again. WTF is this crap? By the effin time I was able to reload he had full everything again. How the hell am I supposed to fight against that using nothing but militia gear? Give me my Duvolle AR, type II suit, shield extender, nanohive and 10% damage mod back and these guys wouldn't stand a chance. But since I am trying to earn some ISK to buy more stuff, using starter kits against these igromir proto players is a night and day difference. All they have to do is think in my direction and I am dead. Pretty much shooting fish in a barrel at this point. Anybody who says proto doesn't give a huge advantage is delusional. I could suck and go 0-10 with a starter kit, but go 20-1 with proto gear under the same situation.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 256	Posted - 2012.10.05 10:50:00 - [17] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. The only good post in this thread.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.10.05 10:57:00 - [18] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that? The fact that we're taking on proto-fitted players & taking them out (even if we aren't winning) speaks volumes about the balance in the game. Clearly a baseline level of skill is required to be able to play at all. High risk, high reward. The ISK you get at the end of the match is determined partially by the value of targets that you destroy. Proto suit are higher value targets. Everything is fun about it. If you want a choose your own adventure movie, go pick up a shooter with a story line. We write our own kittening story in this game. So today's story can be "The Day CCP Said I Hate You By Giving Noobs Proto Gear To Own Us With" or it can be "Look At All Off The Kittening Money I Made Off Of The Proto Noobs". And now you know how a new player coming late to the game might feel if we don't balance things properly.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.10.05 10:59:00 - [19] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Dewie Cheecham wrote: Rasatsu wrote: So much tears for some beta deaths. Thia time I'd say the tears are very much in order. Allowing a group of full proto fit players to go against people just starting out (again) after a reset, is stupid. Where the hell is the fun in that? The fact that we're taking on proto-fitted players & taking them out (even if we aren't winning) speaks volumes about the balance in the game. Clearly a baseline level of skill is required to be able to play at all. High risk, high reward. The ISK you get at the end of the match is determined partially by the value of targets that you destroy. Proto suit are higher value targets. Everything is fun about it. If you want a choose your own adventure movie, go pick up a shooter with a story line. We write our own kittening story in this game. So today's story can be "The Day CCP Said I Hate You By Giving Noobs Proto Gear To Own Us With" or it can be "Look At All Off The Kittening Money I Made Off Of The Proto Noobs". And now you know how a new player coming late to the game might feel if we don't balance things properly. Can I name this? I'm thinking we start calling the Proto Noobs "Peons (Proto-endowed original noobs)"
Xiree Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2012.10.05 11:05:00 - [20] - Quote Is you talking about "little" russia in Cali or New York?



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