DUST Search - [FEEDBACK]Heavies and trying to fix them

Mira Adari wrote:

Heavies are doing fine. You just have to know your role. You don't run and gun with a heavy (since he can't really run), you don't do CQC with a heavy (because he is too slow to turn). Use him to kill vehicles (Forge Gun) or deny access to an objective for enemy infantry (HMG). Rely on your squad to keep you clear of CQC Scouts and ARs and on Snipers on your team to supress their Snipers.

Heavies were never meant to be a counter against everything. Gameplay-wise this is just not the way to go (even if such a suit was be very usefull IRL). Heavies are good at mid range, they lose at close range or long range. Rock-Paper-Scissors. You can't have one suit be anti-infantry and anti-vehicle if you want people to use the other suits, too. Just look at the tanks pre-nerf. Everyone was rolling their solopwnmobile and once that didn't work anymore, they whined and moaned, but the tankers who knew what they were doing didn't whine. They still did well. You also don't see the good heavies moan about their effectiveness.

If you want to go toe-to-toe with an AR or Shotgun, use an Assault Suit with an AR. A Heavy is not suited for that playstyle.


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Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 203	Posted - 2012.10.04 18:49:00 - [1] - Quote Mira Adari wrote: Heavies are doing fine. You just have to know your role. You don't run and gun with a heavy (since he can't really run), you don't do CQC with a heavy (because he is too slow to turn). Use him to kill vehicles (Forge Gun) or deny access to an objective for enemy infantry (HMG). Rely on your squad to keep you clear of CQC Scouts and ARs and on Snipers on your team to supress their Snipers. Heavies were never meant to be a counter against everything. Gameplay-wise this is just not the way to go (even if such a suit was be very usefull IRL). Heavies are good at mid range, they lose at close range or long range. Rock-Paper-Scissors. You can't have one suit be anti-infantry and anti-vehicle if you want people to use the other suits, too. Just look at the tanks pre-nerf. Everyone was rolling their solopwnmobile and once that didn't work anymore, they whined and moaned, but the tankers who knew what they were doing didn't whine. They still did well. You also don't see the good heavies moan about their effectiveness. If you want to go toe-to-toe with an AR or Shotgun, use an Assault Suit with an AR. A Heavy is not suited for that playstyle. This. Just to say it, being a heavy doesn't work well when you solo. You're too slow. I will outrun you and come back when my shields recover. I get wtfbbqpwned whenever I go toe to toe with a heavy that sees me as I see him (or her) that uses a HMG - and I should. Just don't expect heavies to be solo beasts. You need a logi or a scout/assault in support. Or if you play a scout or an assault, hide behind the heavy, draw the enemy back to your big, beefy friend. Know your role, don't try to run around as a heavy with a shotgun in an open field and expect to accomplish anything. Play the role as it is meant to be played. If Heavies could do everything and beat everything else everyone would play one. They were worthless for a bit a build or two ago, but they're much better, not worse now. Tweakage is always needed, but calling them worthless is plain wrong. Edit: Also, people need to give this build more time. I've got a little over a million SP. SP cap is hitting hard and few if any peeps have the sp invested in their builds for us to have any idea what is and is not working at this stage. It's been three days since a complete character wipe. Be a beta tester and test more before declaring an entire class of character worthless.