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Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.04 13:52:00 -
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Well its gotten to a point where Dropships are beginning to be fun! And congratz to that CCP I mean it.
But i wanna discuss 2 problems that iv found.
Iv dumped every point of my 1.1mil SP into nothing but things for my dropship and this is what iv found:
The new flight mechanics are cool, but that's all they are. i feel slowing the pitch and yaw speed down did nothing but cripple the good pilots . I understand ( or at least i think i do) That CCP wanted to give the Dropship more "Stability" And honestly this helps tons. But at the same time you have made your biggest problem even bigger with the reduced roll speed. Which leads me to my next point.
Swarms.
The damage is better and no one can argue that, dropships aren't popping in 1 1/2 swarms anymore.
But heres the problem. How much they move you.
Honestly its ridiculous how much those little missiles can throw your ship.
Ex: I was flying a very expensive ship that could take quite a few hits from missiles yes? Well i take one swarm in a match the other day. It barely got through my shields into my real defenses of armor. But my ship leans HARD HARD left and sends me towards the ground, i can barely correct but what happens? Another swarm hits me and keeps me tilted seeing as i didn't have a good 5 whole seconds just to shift my ship. Next thing i know im flying sideways towards the ground with no help of recovery not from the damaging part of the swarms but from the pesky and undeniably slow roll speed and the ridiculously high movement of swarms.
Even worse is when you dodge the swarms. Heheheheh i gunned it around 10 building and i have come to a sneaky stop behind this one right here and no one could ever see me (: SIKE. Next thing ya know 1 swarm missile managed to get around, taking out a quarter of my shields, big woop. Wait. **** shit **** o wait! No! walllllllllllll. <--------- that's how much i can get out before that one missile tilts me towards what is my cover from that dam missile, only to be my downfall.
Next thing i know the building that so graciously was my cover from the guy with a t2 forge gun already has become nothing more than a dangerous thing to be around, Hell CCP you might as well mark any tall building that could cover a dropship with unsafe areas because after 10 seconds near one your liable to die.
Do me a favor CCP, and this is my passion, i do nothing but save for another DS atm after i lose one.
Reduce splash/movemnt damage from swarms. <----- i beg of you.
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Increase the roll speed back up and tell the bad drivers time to learn.
Thanks guys, comment and tell me what you think!
-Smoke2Bowls
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Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:11:00 -
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I guess im the only one that cares >.> Awkward.... |
q00t
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:18:00 -
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I haven't had chance to try out a DS yet, my first points I always put into a gun so I can run around when i have no money. I had no problems at all with the controls in the previous version, if the roll speeds been slowed down I suspect that like you I wont be happy about it, the controls last patch were fine once you got used to them.
I do wonder if there are overarching problems with sensitivity however; there's another thread in the bugs section regarding mouse speed and aiming and things. The few experiments I've done with the joypad and mouse sensitivity sliders seem to indicate that these values aren't actually having any affect at the moment. The dropship turn issue could potentially be resolved when they are? |
Moochie Cricket
SyNergy Gaming
143
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:28:00 -
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As a dedicated DS pilot I completely agree with everything you just said. I was actually in a match with you the other day, you were trying to pick me up but I had already called mine in |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:34:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:As a dedicated DS pilot I completely agree with everything you just said. I was actually in a match with you the other day, you were trying to pick me up but I had already called mine in
haha i see i see :p |
Sha Kharn Clone
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1087
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:40:00 -
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Yep got a milita DS just to see what had changed. Shame they seem to have slowed eveything down. Flying is like watching paint dry now and well it used to take a bit of skill and was really fun.
ALso lol yes Swarm induced crashing is still a joke. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:44:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:I guess im the only one that cares >.> Awkward....
No one cares. 0.o
Points to my dedicated thread. :)
HERE
Ya I seen you flying around Smoke2Bowls. I was the pilot of the viper that turned you into a dropship snack. Before the match decided to crash on us.
I do agree I did love the sensitive controls of last build because if needed you could do some crazy manauvers very quick. AKA avoid Bola's that appear out of no where. Now it is a little harder to do that. I would not mind a system that allowed more hardcore pilots to keep the sensitive controls and newbies to switch to the easier to handle but slower response controls. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:49:00 -
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When we ran into each other i was running a friends sheild ship. All my points are in Armor. But get this. I just pulled out a ship like 2 seconds ago. As soon as i do i get a hard freeze..... FML
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Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:49:00 -
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it was a miltia viper lol, you dont wanna run into MY ship. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.10.04 14:58:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:it was a miltia viper lol, you dont wanna run into MY ship.
Pish run your ship. :) trust me the results in the end will be the same. lol.
If your flying tonight again around the same times there could be a chance you run into me on skirmish if skirmish works tonight had to play ambush last night because skirmish was not letting my group in. |
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Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:02:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:it was a miltia viper lol, you dont wanna run into MY ship. Pish run your ship. :) trust me the results in the end will be the same. lol. If your flying tonight again around the same times there could be a chance you run into me on skirmish if skirmish works tonight had to play ambush last night because skirmish was not letting my group in.
Exact same here. But yeah theres a big difference in a viper and a T1 Armor Ship without 1 militia item on it bro (; |
YoUnGcUz
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:05:00 -
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Dropships are hard to take down early this build with all the miltia swarms. Good pilots and gunners are dominating alot of maps. |
Sees-Too-Much
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:12:00 -
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Since missiles get a damage bonus against armor and a penalty against shields a dogfight is probably going to go to the shield tank.
I've only had the opportunity to fly three times so far this build. I was trying to be a logi ground-pounder to see if I could earn some decent cash to pay for dropships. Turns out I still suck on the ground, not a relevant part of the story. While flying I only took one hard hit from a swarm and it nearly flipped my Gorgon* over. I'm not really that upset about it, though, because if this build is going to be anything like last build those times when I get flipped over are the only time I'm in danger of dying. At least when I'm playing gunship. Around the end of last build I switched tactics to loading an mCRU and hovering over objectives. It's a bit more dangerous, especially without comms, but it's nice to use the ship for its intended purpose.
I haven't decided how I feel about the new controls. I'm not sure how much of it is because I have armor mods instead of nanos, but it definitely feels like the ship pitches and yaws in molasses. The actual speed doesn't seem to have changed much, just how long it takes to change direction. One the one hand, hovering over a site is a lot easier, on the other hand, I could sew a sweater with my dropship before, not so much now. But then, taking out a bit of maneuverability may have been intentional
*I switched to Gallente dropships this build. Wanted to try it out. |
Sin3 DeusNomine
Doomheim
142
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:24:00 -
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Smoke2Bowls wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:it was a miltia viper lol, you dont wanna run into MY ship. Pish run your ship. :) trust me the results in the end will be the same. lol. If your flying tonight again around the same times there could be a chance you run into me on skirmish if skirmish works tonight had to play ambush last night because skirmish was not letting my group in. Exact same here. But yeah theres a big difference in a viper and a T1 Armor Ship without 1 militia item on it bro (;
Hope to see you on the field. :) I will let my flying and my gunners speak of what my little viper can do. |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:36:00 -
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Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:Sin3 DeusNomine wrote:Smoke2Bowls wrote:it was a miltia viper lol, you dont wanna run into MY ship. Pish run your ship. :) trust me the results in the end will be the same. lol. If your flying tonight again around the same times there could be a chance you run into me on skirmish if skirmish works tonight had to play ambush last night because skirmish was not letting my group in. Exact same here. But yeah theres a big difference in a viper and a T1 Armor Ship without 1 militia item on it bro (; Hope to see you on the field. :) I will let my flying and my gunners speak of what my little viper can do.
Im excited to see how you sheilds hold up to my Armor. And you better hope i dont set you on fire is all. <--- the downfall of sheilds lol |
Smoke2Bowls
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
93
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Posted - 2012.10.04 15:38:00 -
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BTW GUYS, ANY1 WHO HSA READ THIS POST LISTEN UP
I fear their may be a flying bug. Possibly.
Last two games iv had my dropship out iv hard froze up mid game, and it doesnt happen when im on the ground.
Idk, look into it, becare. Two cold boots in a row suck |
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