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BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:43:00 -
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Umbat Boki wrote:I actually didn't notice significant changed in strafing speed. Why everyone complain so much about this? All in all, gun fight feels better now and I the game itself in general has more fun for me.
There is no difference in strafing speeds. They're complaining because hit detection works better, thus their strafing doesn't work anymore. Strafing was only a problem before because of the lag, which is where the hit detection complaints arose. When you strafe, basically you're moving before your body does for other people, including yourself. Depending on your ping, you'll see it at a different location than someone else. Strafing is always an exploit, in every game. Until connections all get a ping of 0, no matter what, you'll have to deal with compensating for lag if fast movement is involved. There put in a lag compensation system to work it out themselves, and as such, people are now complaining that they can't dodge bullets. When, in reality, they never were dodging bullets, just walking faster than their character.
(A ping of X ms means you are seeing everything X milliseconds behind what has already happened, and you need to compensate by that amount of time..) |
BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:51:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:@ Snake You aren't bitter at all that KingBabar was better than you at MAG. When you weren't driving vehicles through walls an into people spawns aye snake. You'd NEVER fo any kida glitching or abuse game mechanics. Stop being a little ***** an get over it.
They've actually catered to skill free nOObs who don't have any situational awareness or ability to burst fire. The game play now boils down to killing people the second they pop their head out of cover. Like, before tey can fire back, because their strafe speed is now terrible.
Sorry, but anyone who couldn't hit the scout last build was just terrible with a gun. I noticed you whining about scout a lot snake. Go figure.
Dust is now Battlefield514 Bad games company.
Oh because you are all knowing, aren't you? after everything else you've said on this forum, most of which being utterly idiotic. You have no ******* idea what you're talking about, or you're speaking out your ass, because, the **** if I know, you're a moron, I guess. Honestly, the scouts almost never took hits in the old build, and were gods of the battlefield. (refer to my previous post) denying that, means either you are hardwired to CCP's connection, or you're a lying son of a *****. |
BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:57:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Tony Calif wrote:@ Snake You aren't bitter at all that KingBabar was better than you at MAG. When you weren't driving vehicles through walls an into people spawns aye snake. You'd NEVER fo any kida glitching or abuse game mechanics. Stop being a little ***** an get over it.
They've actually catered to skill free nOObs who don't have any situational awareness or ability to burst fire. The game play now boils down to killing people the second they pop their head out of cover. Like, before tey can fire back, because their strafe speed is now terrible.
Sorry, but anyone who couldn't hit the scout last build was just terrible with a gun. I noticed you whining about scout a lot snake. Go figure.
Dust is now Battlefield514 Bad games company. lol fail tony Bitter about my driving skills I could hit the scout, but my shots never registered Like BF3 lolno, at least grouping works well and it can hold more players aswell QQ more plz
He said bad company, which was an amazing game. |
BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:10:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Tony Calif wrote:Yes my 2meg connection is hard wired to CCP lol. Have you not noticed they removed AR recoil? Dumb fire swarms? BUFFED THE MASS DRIVER?!?! Scoped recoil on snipers. The list goes on... the game is now just a camping fest... It's like the tankers who won't use militia tanks. They're just not very good players in that role.
Why use a milita tank when for an extra 62k you can have a gunlogi?
Marauders take HAV5 from what I've heard. |
BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 14:36:00 -
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mikegunnz wrote:BLACKBERRY TORCH wrote:Umbat Boki wrote:I actually didn't notice significant changed in strafing speed. Why everyone complain so much about this? All in all, gun fight feels better now and I the game itself in general has more fun for me. There is no difference in strafing speeds. They're complaining because hit detection works better, thus their strafing doesn't work anymore. Strafing was only a problem before because of the lag, which is where the hit detection complaints arose. When you strafe, basically you're moving before your body does for other people, including yourself. Depending on your ping, you'll see it at a different location than someone else. Strafing is always an exploit, in every game. Until connections all get a ping of 0, no matter what, you'll have to deal with compensating for lag if fast movement is involved. There put in a lag compensation system to work it out themselves, and as such, people are now complaining that they can't dodge bullets. When, in reality, they never were dodging bullets, just walking faster than their character. (A ping of X ms means you are seeing everything X milliseconds behind what has already happened, and you need to compensate by that amount of time..) Agreed, hit detection is MUCH better. HOWEVER, the strafe speed IS a little slower. I know the reason they did this was to fix the issue of scouts being invincible with left/right/left/right strafe, but from what I've played, it's overkill. Hit detection is better, strafe speed could have been left alone. If it were STILL a problem, then re-evaluate. Right now the scout lost it's only counterbalance to its low EHP. Strafe needs to be bumped back to last build... or at least somewhere between now and last build. Just think about it: (last build) Scout Suit: Lower CPU/PG, lower EHP, high speed. Heavy Suit: Moderate CPU/PG, highest EHP, slowest speed Assault: Moderate everything Logi: High CPU/PG, moderate-to- moderately low everything else There was a sense of balance. Right now, while the scout does run fast, the strafe is reduced. And that was PART of his only real advantage. PS. This is coming from someone who doesn't really use scout suits.
Well.... about logi... It was possible to make a logi have 700 armor and 400 shield |
BLACKBERRY TORCH
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 15:00:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:This game has been being dumbed down since april. The game has been getting more camper friendly since the E3 build released in june. This game isn't going to prosper unless CCP removes the camper friendly gameplay found in every other shooter released this holiday season. Uhh, so you're saying to remove objectives? Because a main part of defending is finding a spot to camp at. |
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