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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:28:00 -
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Since we are still starting counter threads for this topic.
How about you get some gun game and stop hiding behind a rock. You call it cover, we all know you are camping because you lack the gun game to run and gun.
To bad you can't buy gun game with all that AUR. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:29:00 -
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I agree more cover and more infantry mobility items like elevators.
How about a deployable wall? |
Ironic Kitten
Mecha Trained Assault Cats
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:33:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Since we are still starting counter threads for this topic. How about you get some gun game and stop hiding behind a rock. You call it cover, we all know you are camping because you lack the gun game to run and gun. To bad you can't buy gun game with all that AUR. Don't need to buy gun game -- I've got a shotgun Not my fault if you aren't looking at me when I sneak around from behind my cover and blow you and your pals away. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:35:00 -
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If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. |
ChargersGirlLuvsDP
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:35:00 -
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no. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:36:00 -
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and here we go, i knew something bad would come out of bringing a dead subject up ********
edit: just saying i called it ^^ |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:38:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:40:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now?
Quote:the gun game to run and gun.
That's all I had to hear. |
Hael Arran
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:42:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now?
yet according to your title and post we need to buff strafe speed and people need to get "gun game".....yeahhh 5/10 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:43:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? Quote:the gun game to run and gun. That's all I had to hear. I think the primary issue is that the current hitscan mechanics for weapons make a higher strafe speed seem necessary to avoid being focused down in seconds. I now understand the threads about the strafe speed being too slow, because I thought leading my targets in the previous builds was actually a reflection of ballistics calculation rather than latency. The hitscan is the issue, not the strafe speed. If someone has to lead their shots to hit you, you won't need to strafe as much, and I think you'll agree that having to lead your targets will also separate those that have gun game from those that just put a dot on the target and hold down the trigger. |
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Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:44:00 -
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Hael Arran wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? yet according to your title and post we need to buff strafe speed and people need to get "gun game".....yeahhh 5/10 We already have the same strafe speeds as CoD. What is wrong with you people? Am I talking about people that know nothing about the fps genre? |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:46:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Hael Arran wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? yet according to your title and post we need to buff strafe speed and people need to get "gun game".....yeahhh 5/10 We already have the same strafe speeds as CoD. What is wrong with you people?
So you want even faster than CoD?
I just think you are having trouble adapting to the tactics people use. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:46:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? Quote:the gun game to run and gun. That's all I had to hear. You don't need the gun game it takes to run and gun in CoD, You can just camp....... |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:47:00 -
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strafing in itself is a tactic, but like some said. im all for a middle ground |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:47:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Hael Arran wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? yet according to your title and post we need to buff strafe speed and people need to get "gun game".....yeahhh 5/10 We already have the same strafe speeds as CoD. What is wrong with you people? So you want even faster than CoD? I just think you are having trouble adapting to the tactics people use. What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:48:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? Quote:the gun game to run and gun. That's all I had to hear. You don't need the gun game it takes to run and gun in CoD, You can just camp....... Honestly, you're more right than I initially gave you credit for, but I now realize that's more due to our weapons being hitscan than it is the lower strafe speed. I'm sure you'll agree that it takes more gun game to lead your targets than it does to just point and shoot like we do now? |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:If Crimson formed this game. CoD: Dust 514. I hate CoD and what it stands for. Its sad that this game is adopting a lot of the same ideals. Catering to scrubs and campers. Haven't you been paying attention to my posts. I hate the CoD strafe speed we have right now. Are you serious right now? Quote:the gun game to run and gun. That's all I had to hear. I think the primary issue is that the current hitscan mechanics for weapons make a higher strafe speed seem necessary to avoid being focused down in seconds. I now understand the threads about the strafe speed being too slow, because I thought leading my targets in the previous builds was actually a reflection of ballistics calculation rather than latency. The hitscan is the issue, not the strafe speed. If someone has to lead their shots to hit you, you won't need to strafe as much, and I think you'll agree that having to lead your targets will also separate those that have gun game from those that just put a dot on the target and hold down the trigger.
While I agree, dancing imo canceled tactics out of the equation. It all just turned into little 1v1 battles or battles with the most people. Now that they changed strafing, people have to actually think before running up on that 1 guy around the corner. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:51:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote: What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever.
I rarely see people camping.
I feel like that you are just mad that you can't run up on any given objective without thinking first.
Plus camping can be stopped by a OB. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:54:00 -
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actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:55:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote: What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever.
I rarely see people camping. I feel like that you are just mad that you can't run up on any given objective without thinking first. Plus camping can be stopped by a OB.
This build is full of high area camping and snipers. What game have you been playing?
Why do you think that I can't run up on an objective without thinking, kill everyone and take it. I have done it several times this build. This game isn't hard or competitive at all. Seriously you couldn't be more wrong. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:56:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote: What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever.
I rarely see people camping. I feel like that you are just mad that you can't run up on any given objective without thinking first. Plus camping can be stopped by a OB. This build is full of high area camping and snipers. What game have you been playing? Those people can all get easy shots, though, due to hitscan allowing them to just point and shoot without having to factor in range. We'd be getting sniped a lot less if those people had to actually lead properly. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:57:00 -
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Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it
Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it. |
REGNUM CODEX DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.03 02:59:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it.
you camp on resupplies and use forge guns
ENOUGH SAID |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:00:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote: What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever.
I rarely see people camping. I feel like that you are just mad that you can't run up on any given objective without thinking first. Plus camping can be stopped by a OB. This build is full of high area camping and snipers. What game have you been playing? Why do you think that I can't run up on an objective without thinking, kill everyone and take it. I have done it several times this build. This game isn't hard or competitive at all. Seriously you couldn't be more wrong.
Then why are you complaining if you can take out everyone at an objective?
If it's the snipers, then you are in the wrong thread buddy. Hahaha. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:00:00 -
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REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it. you camp on resupplies and use forge guns ENOUGH SAID
I do?
It's funny because I am assault this build. Nice try though. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:00:00 -
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for me its in every game i play, sometimes me and this guy are duking it out all by ourselves until his teammates or mine come to help. i still like i said before, am able to dodge to an extent. so its cool. this stuff is unavoidable, even if your standing still it's unavoidable unless you stay in the red zone / MCC all day |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:02:00 -
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Khortez D wrote:for me its in every game i play, sometimes me and this guy are duking it out all by ourselves until his teammates or mine come to help. i still like i said before, am able to dodge to an extent. so its cool. this stuff is unavoidable, even if your standing still it's unavoidable unless you stay in the red zone / MCC all day
To each their own. Can't say that's ever happened to me before. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:04:00 -
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many players play this game, you have to expect theres gonna be someone around the corner, and you gota be careful even then. using cover helps, but for me strafing does the same. in fact, if i couldnt move fast enough, getting to cover would be an issue. there has been lots of times where "getting in cover" has been an invalid factor for me, just because i couldnt get there in time. and i do use cover. usually when im fighting vehicles, installations. or when im about to die. thats just all normal and common sense if you ask me
oh, and even though your not moving left and right in a fashion.. the idea for strafing is to dodge bullets, your always dodging bullets when you sprint away from the shooters bullets or when you strafe behind cover, all cover does is allow you to take a breather before they come in and storm you |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:06:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote: What? I adapt just fine to camping... Its incredibly easy to camp in dust 514. wtf are you talking about. This is game is easier then ever.
I rarely see people camping. I feel like that you are just mad that you can't run up on any given objective without thinking first. Plus camping can be stopped by a OB. This build is full of high area camping and snipers. What game have you been playing? Why do you think that I can't run up on an objective without thinking, kill everyone and take it. I have done it several times this build. This game isn't hard or competitive at all. Seriously you couldn't be more wrong. Then why are you complaining if you can take out everyone at an objective? If it's the snipers, then you are in the wrong thread buddy. Hahaha. This has nothing to do with me bro. The slow strafe speed promotes camping and tedious game play. Are you even reading my posts or are you just trolling? |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:10:00 -
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Khortez D wrote:many players play this game, you have to expect theres gonna be someone around the corner, and you gota be careful even then. using cover helps, but for me strafing does the same. in fact, if i couldnt move fast enough, getting to cover would be an issue. there has been lots of times where "getting in cover" has been an invalid factor for me, just because i couldnt get there in time. and i do use cover. usually when im fighting vehicles, installations. or when im about to die. thats just all normal and common sense if you ask me
oh, and even though your not moving left and right in a fashion.. the idea for strafing is to dodge bullets, your always dodging bullets when you sprint away from the shooters bullets or when you strafe behind cover, all cover does is allow you to take a breather before they come in and storm you
You have a very different idea of cover than I do. I use it all the time for anything I do. |
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ORI Clone 2731
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:11:00 -
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Screw that, make infantry unable to instantly alternate between sprinting left and right while firing down a scope. I say learn to shoot rather than spamming left, right, and jump on your controller to make up for how much you suck.
If you want to compare how well you strafe (sic?) compared to another player pick up halo. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:12:00 -
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ORI Clone 2731 wrote:Screw that, make infantry unable to instantly alternate between sprinting left and right while firing down a scope. I say learn to shoot rather than spamming left, right, and jump on your controller to make up for how much you suck.
If you want to compare how well you strafe (sic?) compared to another player pick up halo. Sounds like someone can't aim.
Oh no he strafed out of the way of my bullets. NERF IT. Get real scrubs. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:13:00 -
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This has nothing to do with me bro. The slow strafe speed promotes camping and tedious game play. Are you even reading my posts or are you just trolling?[/quote]
If you can't stop camping at places, and you have a squad, I feel bad for you. Me and my squad do it easily. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:14:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:many players play this game, you have to expect theres gonna be someone around the corner, and you gota be careful even then. using cover helps, but for me strafing does the same. in fact, if i couldnt move fast enough, getting to cover would be an issue. there has been lots of times where "getting in cover" has been an invalid factor for me, just because i couldnt get there in time. and i do use cover. usually when im fighting vehicles, installations. or when im about to die. thats just all normal and common sense if you ask me
oh, and even though your not moving left and right in a fashion.. the idea for strafing is to dodge bullets, your always dodging bullets when you sprint away from the shooters bullets or when you strafe behind cover, all cover does is allow you to take a breather before they come in and storm you You have a very different idea of cover than I do. I use it all the time for anything I do.
you still have to worry about someone storming your position, to me it still does nothing but give you a second to breathe from all the gunfire i mean thats why you use it right? to avoid getting shot? but once someone comes in there, the tactics change up especially if you're on something important |
REGNUM CODEX DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:14:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it. you camp on resupplies and use forge guns ENOUGH SAID I do? It's funny because I am assault this build. Nice try though. assault who uses a Mass driver
...failed to mention that last part |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
639
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:18:00 -
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REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it. you camp on resupplies and use forge guns ENOUGH SAID I do? It's funny because I am assault this build. Nice try though. assault who uses a Mass driver ...failed to mention that last part
This build? I don't think so. I use a GEK-38. Try again? |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:19:00 -
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>>>If you can't stop camping at places, and you have a squad, I feel bad for you. Me and my squad do it easily.[/quote]
This isn't about "stopping campers" as you say. Its about boring s hitty gameplay and terrible game mechanics.
Seriously stop trying to make this about killing campers. Campers are easy to kill if you know what you are doing. |
Khortez D
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:20:00 -
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well anyway all flaming aside;
i use cover and strafing. as i said before.. strafing can be a tactic all on its own. you're not dodging left and right to look silly or take advantage of anything. your just avoiding your opponents reticule and you'll do that no matter what unless you want to die. taking cover is just another form of it. i've seen some people use neither cover nor strafing and they died quickly.
if he strafed he would've lasted longer, if he used cover, he might have had an advantage over me since my bullets don't go through walls.
when people strafe they are trying to be unpredictable. because if a person can assume where hes going to go hes going to shoot there. and if you cant change directions fast enough, your gonna get hit. |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:23:00 -
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Crimson MoonV wrote:
This isn't about "stopping campers" as you say. Its about boring s hitty gameplay and terrible game mechanics.
Seriously stop trying to make this about killing campers. Campers are easy to kill if you know what you are doing.
Hahaha ok if it's not fun for you then leave. |
Crimson MoonV
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
658
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:28:00 -
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Debacle Nano wrote:Crimson MoonV wrote:
This isn't about "stopping campers" as you say. Its about boring s hitty gameplay and terrible game mechanics.
Seriously stop trying to make this about killing campers. Campers are easy to kill if you know what you are doing.
Hahaha ok if it's not fun for you then leave. We are here to test this game and make it better.You should have just said go back to CoD moron.
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REGNUM CODEX DEI
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:31:00 -
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REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:Debacle Nano wrote:Khortez D wrote:actually cant believe a OB is your solution, but anyway 1v1 battles still go on. just without as much strafing. and even without strafing the battle with more people still flies, happend to me just about every game i played. with strafing, i still have to think about charging up on the guy around the corner, for all i know he has a shotgun or something and i dont dare just run right into it Not in the games I play. It's usually whoever has the advantage geographically. Plus I usually find myself and my squad fighting across a street on a map. With one side on another or people spawning at a cru and us trying to push up to cap it. you camp on resupplies and use forge guns ENOUGH SAID I do? It's funny because I am assault this build. Nice try though. assault who uses a Mass driver ...failed to mention that last part
This build? I don't think so. I use a GEK-38. Try again?[/quote]
the PVR does not lie |
Debacle Nano
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.10.03 03:33:00 -
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REGNUM CODEX DEI wrote:
the PVR does not lie
I started using the mass driver at the end of last build. Never trained into them this build. Does your PVR tell you that?
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