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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:14:00 -
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Hey there people.
I guess the title itself is pretty clear. So fire away ! What will be the weekly SP Cap in your opinion ?
No arguing about everyone's guess, just give your estimation.
=> I'll go first and say 4.5 Million SP |
HK-40
120
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:16:00 -
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750k |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:16:00 -
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2.5 million.
No casual players are going to be getting anywhere near 4.5 million in a week unless they changed the SP gain a lot, which is the whole point of this. |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:17:00 -
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1 mil |
gangsta nachos
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:18:00 -
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7 mil |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:23:00 -
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6 million |
Musta Tornius
BetaMax.
265
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:24:00 -
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995K |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion
50
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:25:00 -
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It would be hilarious if this thread was how we found out Bob Barker plays dust. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:27:00 -
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Im going with 500k, Nothing did say they were reducing the SP required for skills, so think some people guesses are a little optimistic.. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:28:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:It would be hilarious if this thread was how we found out Bob Barker plays dust.
One SP, Bob. |
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Frank A
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
99
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:31:00 -
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1,050,000 (150k avg per day) |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:31:00 -
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We all agree i asked for the WEEKLY sp cap right ?
I may be a bit optimistic but some are very low ^^
And bob barker is my father ! i'd know it if he played Dust [barney mode off] |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
194
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:33:00 -
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Thing go little different at start game. Now you got almost insta game after game. (You gain SP fast) Soon tm - you will wait for corp battles... so... I bet around 2 mill SP per week
(I still wonder what about AUR boosters)
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Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:35:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:We all agree i asked for the WEEKLY sp cap right ? I may be a bit optimistic but some are very low ^^ And bob barker is my father ! i'd know it if he played Dust [barney mode off]
It has also been said that the new SP model will be similar to Eve Online. If my memory serves (eve is a bit different because character attributes can affect SP gain) I gat about 2500 SP per hour in Eve which is about 420,000 a week.
So i was also being a tad optermistic |
HK-40
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:35:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Thing go little different at start game. Now you got almost insta game after game. (You gain SP fast) Soon tm - you will wait for corp battles... so... I bet around 2 mill SP per week
(I still wonder what about AUR boosters)
Well 'Nothin' has already stated that AUR boosters increase your cap by 50%, so not sure what there is to wonder about now? |
Sven Lindblad
11
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:36:00 -
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I believe CCP said xp boosters will not affect the cap so in reality the boosters increase cap by 50%.
Edit: to late :/ |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:36:00 -
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2 SP a week |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:36:00 -
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They said they will align it better with EVE so on this
An un implanted clone generates on average 1400 SP an hour
So multiplying this by 7 days you get approx 235,200
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:36:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Thing go little different at start game. Now you got almost insta game after game. (You gain SP fast) Soon tm - you will wait for corp battles... so... I bet around 2 mill SP per week
(I still wonder what about AUR boosters)
CCP Nothin said in this post that having an SP booster on will increase the cap by 50%. I'd say anything between 1 to 3 million is probably a decent guess depending on exactly how much they reduced skill prices by. |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:37:00 -
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25 million. |
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:38:00 -
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if it's less than ten mill it will be sad very sad for those who PLAY!!!! but no lets set the bar nice and low for all the non player trash |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:38:00 -
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You had to be that guy.
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:if it's less than ten mill it will be sad very sad for those who PLAY!!!! but no lets set the bar nice and low for all the non player trash
You're saying you were getting about/more than 1.5 million SP a day before? How many games were you playing?
And again, if it's anything at or above 4 million or so, then you're defeating the whole purpose of the cap. It's to decrease the discrepancy between hardcore and casual players--if the hardcore guys can get 10mil (or more) per week every week, then you're still going to be leaps and bounds ahead of casual players. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:44:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:if it's less than ten mill it will be sad very sad for those who PLAY!!!! but no lets set the bar nice and low for all the non player trash
Yeah less than 10 million will make WARRIOR's RAGE quit, I repair my LAV 50 million times what do you mean I gat 100k sp like everyone else. This is no good for exploiterRs full stop and to that end CCP will lose all us WARRIOR if they dont alow unlimited boosting...... Thought id help you put your point across better. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
437
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:46:00 -
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Any guess over 1 million is pure WoW fantasising.
First we need to look at how much a casual player will reasonably be assumed to play per week. Let's say two days per week, 4 hours each of those days, giving us 8 hours * 3 matches/hour = 24 matches per week.
Assuming between 10k and 20k SP per match we're looking at 240k to 480k per week. |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:50:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Any guess over 1 million is pure WoW fantasising.
First we need to look at how much a casual player will reasonably be assumed to play per week. Let's say two days per week, 4 hours each of those days, giving us 8 hours * 3 matches/hour = 24 matches per week.
Assuming between 10k and 20k SP per match we're looking at 240k to 480k per week.
I'm pretty sure we're still going to be getting bonuses to those first matches. Once we start gearing up I wouldn't be surprised to see 100k SP for the very first match of the week easily. It would be pretty lame if you got 1/4 (or more) of your allotted SP in one game.
And, more importantly, they're trying to decrease, not eliminate, the gap between hardcore and casual. If essentially every player has the exact amount of SP it's going to be kind of stupid. |
Laz Ulian Sol
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:52:00 -
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Thread went off topic, removed my guess. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:53:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:if it's less than ten mill it will be sad very sad for those who PLAY!!!! but no lets set the bar nice and low for all the non player trash Yeah less than 10 million will make WARRIOR's RAGE quit, I repair my LAV 50 million times what do you mean I gat 100k sp like everyone else. This is no good for exploiterRs full stop and to that end CCP will lose all us WARRIOR if they dont alow unlimited boosting...... Thought id help you put your point across better.
after playing for 12hr and going 18for 0 in a game the pay being 2000 sp why you think we boost lol |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:53:00 -
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If they lowered SP cost to be inline with EVE I'd say Rasatsu is pretty darn close. But if they kept the 2x SP cost at level 5 I'm gonna say right around 768k per week with booster, maybe 1m per week.
I know my main on EVE takes about 4 and a half days to train a rank 1 skill from level 4 to 5, thats with maxed out learning, and full +4 implants. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:54:00 -
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Thanks for destroying the contest thread guys.. ... There's other topics to discuss the thing in general |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:55:00 -
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Conraire wrote:If they lowered SP cost to be inline with EVE I'd say Rasatsu is pretty darn close. But if they kept the 2x SP cost at level 5 I'm gonna say right around 768k per week with booster, maybe 1m per week.
I know my main on EVE takes about 4 and a half days to train a rank 1 skill from level 4 to 5, thats with maxed out learning, and full +4 implants.
uh ? learning ? hasnt this disappeared for a while now ? |
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 10:59:00 -
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Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap.
Gotta love em.
Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players. |
Tyas Borg
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:02:00 -
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Removed this as it's in the wrong thread tbh. |
HK-40
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:02:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players.
Wonderful, now a dropship repairman is calling us 'non players'. Whatever will I do
Seriously, check the title, that is if 'warriors' can read. Its a guess thread, not another whine thread. |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:02:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:if it's less than ten mill it will be sad very sad for those who PLAY!!!! but no lets set the bar nice and low for all the non player trash Yeah less than 10 million will make WARRIOR's RAGE quit, I repair my LAV 50 million times what do you mean I gat 100k sp like everyone else. This is no good for exploiterRs full stop and to that end CCP will lose all us WARRIOR if they dont alow unlimited boosting...... Thought id help you put your point across better.
NO.......... You potato, it just means we only need play one day a week.
Be glad you'll all be a lot safer now. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:06:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players.
Why are you WARRIORS so scared of noobs with no skill points and no equipment, Are you so damn scared that without the 100Million SP advantage over Nooby McNoob with Militia gear and no fingers will deem you unable to kill said noob. Will your 50 hours a week practice not help you fight the terrifyingly scarey Nooby McNoob.
Oh noes something is stopping us moving massively infront of the casuals how will we ever survive in an FPS that more about situational awareness, team work and Skill and not skill points.... |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:08:00 -
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HK-40 wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players. Wonderful, now a dropship repairman is calling us 'non players'. Whatever will I do Seriously, check the title, that is if 'warriors' can read. Its a guess thread, not another whine thread.
was 110 on the leaderboards would be much higher if there was no sp cap were you on the boards?? |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
443
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:10:00 -
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If we go for the target that levelling up the characters should take about 7 years it will be:
Ca 80 M skillpoints in total / (7*50) 350 weeks = about 230K Skillpoints per week.
I seriously hope it isn't that drastic, that would mean it would take me about 18 weeks just to get my proto suit....
This is a very very bad move from CCP, and just when they finally got things working.... |
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:10:00 -
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Dzark Kill wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players. Why are you WARRIORS so scared of noobs with no skill points and no equipment, Are you so damn scared that without the 100Million SP advantage over Nooby McNoob with Militia gear and no fingers will deem you unable to kill said noob. Will your 50 hours a week practice not help you fight the terrifyingly scarey Nooby McNoob. Oh noes something is stopping us moving massively infront of the casuals how will we ever survive in an FPS that more about situational awareness, team work and Skill and not skill points....
Yeah whatever pal.............. Never seen you..............Really hope I do now though. |
HK-40
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:11:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:HK-40 wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players. Wonderful, now a dropship repairman is calling us 'non players'. Whatever will I do Seriously, check the title, that is if 'warriors' can read. Its a guess thread, not another whine thread. was 110 on the leaderboards would be much higher if there was no sp cap were you on the boards??
No, its not a leaderboard thread either. (colder). Remember that everyone is a winner davy boy. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:15:00 -
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HK-40 wrote:BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:HK-40 wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Funny how it's all the non FPS playing EVEtards who are happy with the cap. Gotta love em. Yup Dave............. You're dead right...............Non players. Wonderful, now a dropship repairman is calling us 'non players'. Whatever will I do Seriously, check the title, that is if 'warriors' can read. Its a guess thread, not another whine thread. was 110 on the leaderboards would be much higher if there was no sp cap were you on the boards?? No, its not a leaderboard thread either. (colder). Remember that everyone is a winner davy boy.
i will remember that when i am tea bagging your lifeless body |
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Gauder Berwyck
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:15:00 -
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3,5m |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:16:00 -
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hard caps are ********. that being said it can still work 3mill per week anything lower and game is gonna fllop imo. gotta give ppl a reason to keep loggin on so having a hard cap means when ppl hit the cap they go play something else as they cant advance their character anymore |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising
131
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:22:00 -
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If it does end up being 1mil or less, then I hope they open up more character slots or something. |
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:22:00 -
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if the cap is low then the WARRIORS will get said cap early in the week so look out nothing left for us but to kill oh well so be it |
4447
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:44:00 -
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when i reach the cap, i'll just make a lot of isk. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:45:00 -
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42 |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.10.01 11:55:00 -
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512k 1*1x skill per week. |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:17:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Yeah whatever pal.............. Never seen you..............Really hope I do now though.
Yeah I get that alot.
I also see the following questions as well:
"what the kitten does "ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS Killed by Dzark Kill" mean? and who's "Dzark Kill"? dont see him appearing on the kill feed much!!..... |
Dzark Kill
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
115
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:20:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:hard caps are ********. that being said it can still work 3mill per week anything lower and game is gonna fllop imo. gotta give ppl a reason to keep loggin on so having a hard cap means when ppl hit the cap they go play something else as they cant advance their character anymore
And with out the cap everyone has all skills at level 5 in a week or two, then what reason is there to keep logging in (Hint its not all about SP ou know)
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:34:00 -
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899 k |
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:40:00 -
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Too low... |
Hank Rust
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:48:00 -
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600
It takes about a month to train an 8x skill from lvl 4 to lvl 5 in EVE, and about 2400 sp to train an 8x skill from lvl 4 to 5 in dust. So 2400/4 = 600. |
10011101
Red Star.
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:53:00 -
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BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS wrote:if the cap is low then the WARRIORS will get said cap early in the week so look out nothing left for us but to kill oh well so be it Only cause you SP farm while getting redlined. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:54:00 -
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it's over 9000!!!!! |
Johnson McCrea
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.10.01 12:58:00 -
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I play Eve. I don't play enough to hit the skill cap. That being said:
1.35mil/week.
After the first 250k, you'll start getting those 'diminishing returns' levels of SP.
Enjoy |
Mr TamiyaCowboy
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:01:00 -
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going by eve-onlines cap :
max is around 250k -500k (weekly), thats using a max skilled 7yr old char.
training a rank 14 skill from level four to level five maxing it out = 64 days ( in eve with above 7yr old char fully maxed out)
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Dewie Cheecham
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
677
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:05:00 -
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You bloody bastard, I was about to write that!
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aden slayer
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
407
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:06:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:You bloody bastard, I was about to write that! Well poop. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.10.01 13:09:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote: going by eve-onlines cap :
max is around 250k -500k (weekly), thats using a max skilled 7yr old char.
training a rank 14 skill from level four to level five maxing it out = 64 days ( in eve with above 7yr old char fully maxed out)
Yeah, this is what we should anticipate. Making the SP gain comparable to EVE means capping out at a few hundred thousand a week or so. |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.01 15:31:00 -
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Patch notes said in line with eve, so 907200. The max per week in EvE is 453600. Although EvE skills take 256k to train x1 to lv5, it takes 512k in dust. So, 2 dust sp is 1 eve sp. |
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