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Conraire wrote:

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Skill rewards
* Skill points are now awarded from battles based on time spent as well as warpoints earned.
* Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime)
* Skill point accrual has been rebalanced and now has a hard cap per week that corresponds to EVE Online
* Skill rewards are now also awarded at the end of each battle to players who participated but werenGÇÖt present the end of the battle (e.g. crashed/disconnected/left)

Hmmmm Don't know if that will go over well. Especially with the high cost of entry for a great many skills, and high cost to level up. Unless they lowered SP costs to be more like EVE, or raised the cap accordingly to be twice what you get in EVE in a week that won't go well at all. In EVE you can get a 1x skill to 3 in a couple hours passive training. Here 1 is ok, 2 takes some time, and depending on how you're doing 3 takes quite a bit, and then 4 takes longer. I can see them wanting it to take longer to get to level 5 though.

Look, a reason to play more on my alts. I guess I'm going to need to redistribute some of my BPO gear after we reset.

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DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.30 03:55:00 - [1] - Quote ::Screams and runs off to read them::
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.09.30 03:57:00 - [2] - Quote nice
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.30 03:58:00 - [3] - Quote i had hope they give us a lot more fitting stuff to play with and HMG didnt need rof buffs it need to fire full sized bullets
Alexander Wolfenstein Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 18	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:00:00 - [4] - Quote There is nothing in those patch notes I don't like. Particle effects affected by wind? WHAT CONSOLE GAME HAS EVER DONE THAT BEFORE? Wow, I was a bit underwhelmed by precursor, but Codex is shaping up to be seriously fun.
Galdor Seregon DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:04:00 - [5] - Quote YAY!!!!! Awesomeness!!!!
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:07:00 - [6] - Quote I feel like Kurt Cobain because my brain just exploded... Too soon?
GAGAH-BOY BRAZIL 66	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:08:00 - [7] - Quote I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CCP WANGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG WANG + FRAME MY CCPs FAVORITEs !!!!!! I LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:10:00 - [8] - Quote Avenger 245 wrote: i had hope they give us a lot more fitting stuff to play with and HMG didnt need rof buffs it need to fire full sized bullets I can't believe they nerfed hmg again increased time to overheat so instead of firing 125 bullets it will be less? It takes almost a full clip of 300 to take down a scout. So let's hope they fixed hit detection.
Gwhardo Slacktronix 8	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:14:00 - [9] - Quote Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1452	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:14:00 - [10] - Quote hopefully the laser rifle is a good replacement for the creodron.

Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:15:00 - [11] - Quote I'm guessing the bulk of their effort was spent on behind-the-scenes sort of stuff? Pretty underwhelming notes. I mean, hell, if they've fixed hit detection and the major bugs and stuff, I'm happy with just that, but I guess maybe the market delving from Buck got me all excited, because I'm actually really disappointed that Crusader suits, pilot suits, and other major new features aren't in this build. Also, seriously? The NDA is still in effect? You guys need to give it a rest already.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:17:00 - [12] - Quote Gwhardo wrote: Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o The Starter Fits will be BPOs, and as such will always be free so long as you don't modify them. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Made Militia items consumable, greatly reduced their ISK price, and added cheap BPO AUR variants as an alternative Is that really good, or totally defeating the purpose of making them consumable? I don't usually say this, but doesn't this dip into the "Pay To Win" category?
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:23:00 - [13] - Quote *Passive skill point gain for characters will now be available to one character at a time Only one of the 3 characters gains passive points now? Would be consistent with EVE but annoying.
Jin Robot Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 330	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:28:00 - [14] - Quote I hope some of the major bugs are fixed, the rest is gravy.
Conraire Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 52	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:30:00 - [15] - Quote Quote: Skill rewards * Skill points are now awarded from battles based on time spent as well as warpoints earned. * Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime) * Skill point accrual has been rebalanced and now has a hard cap per week that corresponds to EVE Online * Skill rewards are now also awarded at the end of each battle to players who participated but werenGÇÖt present the end of the battle (e.g. crashed/disconnected/left) Hmmmm Don't know if that will go over well. Especially with the high cost of entry for a great many skills, and high cost to level up. Unless they lowered SP costs to be more like EVE, or raised the cap accordingly to be twice what you get in EVE in a week that won't go well at all. In EVE you can get a 1x skill to 3 in a couple hours passive training. Here 1 is ok, 2 takes some time, and depending on how you're doing 3 takes quite a bit, and then 4 takes longer. I can see them wanting it to take longer to get to level 5 though.
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:38:00 - [16] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: I'm guessing the bulk of their effort was spent on behind-the-scenes sort of stuff? Pretty underwhelming notes. I mean, hell, if they've fixed hit detection and the major bugs and stuff, I'm happy with just that, but I guess maybe the market delving from Buck got me all excited, because I'm actually really disappointed that Crusader suits, pilot suits, and other major new features aren't in this build. Also, seriously? The NDA is still in effect? You guys need to give it a rest already. Could your answer to all of the above be that its a beta? Seriously stop being so entitled
Jimbeezy Imperfects Negative-Feedback 219	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:40:00 - [17] - Quote Awesome patch notes. I was hoping to see bigger squads tho. And there was no mention of the "Crusader" class either. I hope that makes it in this build.
Ghural The Southern Legion 63	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:47:00 - [18] - Quote Personally I think it is a waste of time nerfing weapons before hit detection is fixed. The nerf to the HMG is going to make it useless in laggy matches.
Goric Rumis Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:48:00 - [19] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I can't believe they nerfed hmg again increased time to overheat so instead of firing 125 bullets it will be less? It takes almost a full clip of 300 to take down a scout. So let's hope they fixed hit detection. The way I'm interpreting the notes right now, it would take the same number of bullets but less time because the rate of fire is higher. Although that's an uninformed interpretation, it could be that it not only takes less time but fewer bullets. a dirty Shisno wrote: CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Made Militia items consumable, greatly reduced their ISK price, and added cheap BPO AUR variants as an alternative Is that really good, or totally defeating the purpose of making them consumable? I don't usually say this, but doesn't this dip into the "Pay To Win" category? I expect not. With the "greatly reduced" ISK price, I imagine they've made the militia equipment cost so little that the only reason people would pay AUR for a BPO is the convenience of not having to restock. Of course, that's just speculation until we log in and see how they're priced.
Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:50:00 - [20] - Quote Conraire wrote: Quote: Skill rewards * Skill points are now awarded from battles based on time spent as well as warpoints earned. * Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime) * Skill point accrual has been rebalanced and now has a hard cap per week that corresponds to EVE Online * Skill rewards are now also awarded at the end of each battle to players who participated but werenGÇÖt present the end of the battle (e.g. crashed/disconnected/left) Hmmmm Don't know if that will go over well. Especially with the high cost of entry for a great many skills, and high cost to level up. Unless they lowered SP costs to be more like EVE, or raised the cap accordingly to be twice what you get in EVE in a week that won't go well at all. In EVE you can get a 1x skill to 3 in a couple hours passive training. Here 1 is ok, 2 takes some time, and depending on how you're doing 3 takes quite a bit, and then 4 takes longer. I can see them wanting it to take longer to get to level 5 though. Look, a reason to play more on my alts. I guess I'm going to need to redistribute some of my BPO gear after we reset.

A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:51:00 - [21] - Quote I'm happy we finally have corps and that my brothers in space can actually see the territories and shoot down at them. I really hope that the lag and hit detection is better. Everything else is just a bonus at this point. [KEQ]
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2047	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:52:00 - [22] - Quote Zoomed pitch and yaw are now equal for all weapons (pitch used to be higher) Zoomed kick has been decreased on all sniper rifles does this mean quickscoping and sniping in general will be even easier :-\
Odiain Suliis 39	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:54:00 - [23] - Quote Quote: * Taking a contract means paying a collateral that will only be returned if the battle is won Oh.. this! I already can see nulsec battles where corporation A puts up a contract for DUSTers to wight and puts up a significant collateral. Then when Corporation B takes that contract up and pays the collateral and arrives in battlefield, the corp A initiates a 'backstab-move' to scam corp B to oblivion. :D
Goric Rumis Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 80	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:55:00 - [24] - Quote Longshot Ravenwood wrote: Conraire wrote: Quote: Skill rewards * Skill points are now awarded from battles based on time spent as well as warpoints earned. * Diminishing returns for skill points earned from battles are now on a 7-day cycle that resets at downtime every Tuesday (used to reset every day at downtime) * Skill point accrual has been rebalanced and now has a hard cap per week that corresponds to EVE Online * Skill rewards are now also awarded at the end of each battle to players who participated but werenGÇÖt present the end of the battle (e.g. crashed/disconnected/left) Hmmmm Don't know if that will go over well. Especially with the high cost of entry for a great many skills, and high cost to level up. Unless they lowered SP costs to be more like EVE, or raised the cap accordingly to be twice what you get in EVE in a week that won't go well at all. In EVE you can get a 1x skill to 3 in a couple hours passive training. Here 1 is ok, 2 takes some time, and depending on how you're doing 3 takes quite a bit, and then 4 takes longer. I can see them wanting it to take longer to get to level 5 though. Look, a reason to play more on my alts. I guess I'm going to need to redistribute some of my BPO gear after we reset. I wonder whether this cap is going to be on a per-alt or per-account basis. So you could hit the cap with one alt on a combination of active and passive SP, but still level your other two alts with purely active SP. Given that it's a F2P game, also, I wonder whether setting account-wide limits will be effective. People might just set up multiple accounts to get around that.
Kyromus Lyndis Kytaar Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 27	Posted - 2012.09.30 04:58:00 - [25] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Gwhardo wrote: Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o The Starter Fits will be BPOs, and as such will always be free so long as you don't modify them. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Made Militia items consumable, greatly reduced their ISK price, and added cheap BPO AUR variants as an alternative Is that really good, or totally defeating the purpose of making them consumable? I don't usually say this, but doesn't this dip into the "Pay To Win" category? If you looked at the section it was under it was for Vehicle Modules. Vehicle Militia Modules. Not standard infantry modules.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:09:00 - [26] - Quote HK-40 wrote: Could your answer to all of the above be that its a beta? Don't just randomly use catchphrases you see other people using on the forum. The answer to your dumb question is "no", and it has nothing to do with entitlement. It's about the game getting underway within a reasonable amount of time.
Ydubbs81 RND 48	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:09:00 - [27] - Quote Provide the link to the patch notes please?
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:10:00 - [28] - Quote It's at the top of this forum.
Odiain Suliis 39	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:13:00 - [29] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Provide the link to the patch notes please? It can be found at the top of general section. And link is allso in OP of this thread.
General Stonewall Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:15:00 - [30] - Quote i love every bit of the new stuff coming except the part were you didnt add anything for the command suits or the pilot suits i was so looking forward to seeing those but hey at least we got a ton of new stuff to toy with until the next build after this one .

Longshot Ravenwood Algintal Core Gallente Federation 680	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:17:00 - [31] - Quote Nova knife is now a sidearm weapon. Officially have to get one to equip to my Sever Logistics suit. UNSTEALTHIEST NINJA HREE I COME!
BestNameEva Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 86	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:21:00 - [32] - Quote Damn dropships still sound like flying water balloons.....oh well hasn't stopped me yet
Tbone3222 Doomheim 5	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:22:00 - [33] - Quote General Stonewall wrote: i love every bit of the new stuff coming except the part were you didnt add anything for the command suits or the pilot suits i was so looking forward to seeing those but hey at least we got a ton of new stuff to toy with until the next build after this one . Also I thought there was a 20% dropship buff and counter measures coming... I'm interested to see the dropship "tweaks", last time they tweaked them it was a complete overhaul.
DUST Fiend Immobile Infantry 1903	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:25:00 - [34] - Quote Scouts are gonna have it rough against mass drivers if the hit detection is better / they explode when they're supposed too. That's ok, we deserve it ^_^
tribal wyvern ZionTCD Legacy Rising 673	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:35:00 - [35] - Quote I noticed there's no 'known bugs/issues' section in the patch notes. Could it be that this build is bug free? Or have they deliberately left out said notes so we can find our OWN bugs and glitches? Hmmmmmm
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2012.09.30 05:37:00 - [36] - Quote Corp. Battles baby... Corp. Battles...
Fiasco Llana Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 251	Posted - 2012.09.30 06:14:00 - [37] - Quote Belzeebub Santana wrote: Corp. Battles baby... Corp. Battles... You're drooling all over yourself Mr. Fed.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.30 06:27:00 - [38] - Quote Kyromus Lyndis Kytaar wrote: a dirty Shisno wrote: Gwhardo wrote: Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o The Starter Fits will be BPOs, and as such will always be free so long as you don't modify them. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Made Militia items consumable, greatly reduced their ISK price, and added cheap BPO AUR variants as an alternative Is that really good, or totally defeating the purpose of making them consumable? I don't usually say this, but doesn't this dip into the "Pay To Win" category? If you looked at the section it was under it was for Vehicle Modules. Vehicle Militia Modules. Not standard infantry modules. While that is a good point, it should be noted that there is absolutely no mention of the Infantry Militia items becoming BPCs, and we already know that is happening. It is possible that it actually does apply to all Militia items. Unless someone from CCP comes here and clarifies we will just have to wait until Monday to find out for sure.
Encharrion L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 104	Posted - 2012.09.30 06:44:00 - [39] - Quote Goric Rumis wrote: I wonder whether this cap is going to be on a per-alt or per-account basis. So you could hit the cap with one alt on a combination of active and passive SP, but still level your other two alts with purely active SP. Given that it's a F2P game, also, I wonder whether setting account-wide limits will be effective. People might just set up multiple accounts to get around that. And the whole F2P thing is why gaining only passive SP on one character is extremely lame. I can't just use one of the convenient additional character spots for my alt now, now I have to create a whole new psn account for that. It just adds inconvenience to making an alt and is completely unnecessary. It is closed beta right now, so it isn't easy to make an additional psn account for Dust as you would need a second key, but when it goes into open beta this limitation will serve no purpose than to inconvenience players.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.09.30 07:04:00 - [40] - Quote looks good apart from the part about SP cycle changing to a 7 day cycle as a posed to a 24 hour cycle. i think people will play the first half of the week and then get a bit bored towards the end. I know getting SP and leveling isnt the be all and end all of this game but it makes it more fun

Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.09.30 07:19:00 - [41] - Quote Gwhardo wrote: Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o Its talking about the militia LAVs.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.09.30 07:20:00 - [42] - Quote Fivetimes Infinity wrote: I'm guessing the bulk of their effort was spent on behind-the-scenes sort of stuff? Pretty underwhelming notes. I mean, hell, if they've fixed hit detection and the major bugs and stuff, I'm happy with just that, but I guess maybe the market delving from Buck got me all excited, because I'm actually really disappointed that Crusader suits, pilot suits, and other major new features aren't in this build. Also, seriously? The NDA is still in effect? You guys need to give it a rest already. NDA is in effect until open beta. Closed beta is expected to last the rest of the year.
Forlorn Destrier ZionTCD Legacy Rising 914	Posted - 2012.09.30 07:23:00 - [43] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Gwhardo wrote: Made Militia items consumable... I just hope that we still have our default loadouts that are infinite. Defective clones such as myself may have to run out naked due to lack of funds... O_o The Starter Fits will be BPOs, and as such will always be free so long as you don't modify them. CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Made Militia items consumable, greatly reduced their ISK price, and added cheap BPO AUR variants as an alternative Is that really good, or totally defeating the purpose of making them consumable? I don't usually say this, but doesn't this dip into the "Pay To Win" category? No. This is in the vehicle section, nnot infantry section. This refers to LAVs.
a dirty Shisno Algintal Core Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2012.09.30 09:22:00 - [44] - Quote Heh heh. Hay everybody! I just noticed we've all been fooled! We didn't get any patch notes. All we got were patchnoes.
HK-40 120	Posted - 2012.09.30 09:23:00 - [45] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Heh heh. Hay everybody! I just noticed we've all been fooled! We didn't get any patchnotes. All we got were patchnoes. CCP troll, best troll
Dusty Mokong ZionTCD Legacy Rising 61	Posted - 2012.09.30 09:25:00 - [46] - Quote a dirty Shisno wrote: Heh heh. Hay everybody! I just noticed we've all been fooled! We didn't get any patch notes. All we got were patchnoes. Good catch,lol


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