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Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 09:45:00 -
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I'd call K/D ratio fans more of a tragic figure. They comes from a different school of internet warfare, if you will. They are the best of what "MAG" has to offer, but it just doesn't work in the reality of this game. Take for example Hannibal of Carthage, by far considered the best Hellenistic general of his time. Problem is Hellenistic warfare was hilariously unprepared for the Roman school of war. A Hellenistic general was expected maneuver and delay battle until he held an undeniable advantage. Battle would commence and he would score a victory by inflicting some casualties and getting the other army to route. In Hellenistic warfare retreat and surrender were often allowed and expected, a golden avenue was given to let the other force leave. Terms of peace shortly followed thereafter. This should sound rather familiar as our K/D ration fans believe that kill/death ratios decide the day, they expect one victory after much maneuvering to make their enemy take the golden avenue of retreat, and come terms.
Roman warfare pretty much dictated that it wasn't over till you were no longer a threat. That meant total annihilation or subjugation. Carthage itself was subdued a number of times each time attempting the throw off Roman control. Finally the Romans got pissed enough they said **** it and just burnt all of Carthage to the ground and replaced it with a Roman settlement.
Just giving you all a heads up that you're using a very old style of warfare and it's since been improved on a lot by both ancient military tactics and modern day stuff too. You've all got a lot to learn.
Oh, Edit: That reminds me the Romans had trouble with their fleet doctrine too. So they decided to turn naval battles into glorified infantry engagements. The Romans stuck a Corvus on their boat, basically it was small bridging device with two spikes on it. Once it crashed through the deck of the other ship the spikes would hold them in place. With the other ship tackled shall we say, the Romans then sent troops over onto the other ship and promptly slew sailor Carthage who couldn't withstand the the sudden numbers flooding onto their deck.
I should also mention that Carthage had a terrible time rallying an army from distant lands and cultures, while the Romans had the strength of their homogeneous cultures to pull from.
TL;DR? Culture and scorched earth tactics work much better than K/D ratios. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:11:00 -
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Whispercrow wrote: Check your history. Vietnam was "won" only after the opposing side violated the cease-fire that was supposed to end it on neutral terms.
In response to the original post: KDR isn't as important as team contribution, only the self-absorbed elite *****-shakers of other games want to think it's the most important thing in the game. It IS important, but not the most important thing.
The exact point i'm trying to relay. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I appreciate the history lesson, but if your team only has 60 clones, the team with a higher KD/R is going to win.
Math ftw ^_^
Not if you get to designate your clone volume. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 16:11:00 -
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I wonder if there's going to be collateral on contracts for Mercs like there is for other aspects of EVE?
It could in fact mean that if you loose you owe someone a lot of ISK. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 19:12:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Damnit itsThat GuyAgain wrote:fenrir storm wrote:So if I read this correct you got to have a high KDR to be of any use or be able to play as a team. So me and the other 75% of average and poor players might as well pack up and leave the game.
I 'm not the best but I play for fun and don't take it serious, I may be old but I thought the idea was to have fun winning was just a bonus LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! GladI to cheer you up 
Think what he's trying to say is that EVE and Dust by extension are taken very seriously. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 19:36:00 -
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fenrir storm wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:fenrir storm wrote:Damnit itsThat GuyAgain wrote:fenrir storm wrote:So if I read this correct you got to have a high KDR to be of any use or be able to play as a team. So me and the other 75% of average and poor players might as well pack up and leave the game.
I 'm not the best but I play for fun and don't take it serious, I may be old but I thought the idea was to have fun winning was just a bonus LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! GladI to cheer you up Think what he's trying to say is that EVE and Dust by extension are taken very seriously. Yes the sarcasm didn't come across very well in the first post, but I thought the second one would have.
i've been drinking, my sarcasm detector is not at its best.
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
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Posted - 2012.09.29 19:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Less spam, more history.
I'm due a new New Eden History thead actually, maybe the great war 2? |
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