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Ieukoplast wrote:

STB-TedNugent EV wrote:

I really think they need to up the rate you get for killing people with militia gear. I have had rounds where I go 20 - 4 and still dont get paid enough to cover the 4 deaths..... That is a little confusing to me. I am not even using full proto gear. I really feel bad for the ones who are using full proto and do this. An adjustment would be nice. I think they should make some kind of increase when you use a fit that reaches a certain price. Any thoughts?

Don't agree, if anything people need to get less from killing militia targets.

ISK should be given out in terms of what is deserved with variables taken into consideration such as gear used vs gear taken out. Killing 100% militia gear (starter kits) is easy compared to taking out somebody with full blown proto everything. Militia gear people have weak shields, their armor is weak and they have no fancy grenades, neat devices like nano-hives, armor repairing ability or powerful weapons. You absolutely should not get more for killing these players.

Everything should be broken down into variables for every single thing like, armor, shields, dropsuit, weapons used etc etc. And based on those variables should determine what points are given out.

So lets make up a description term, lets say the militia gear guy has a widget score of 15, this adds up all the widget points from each part of what the player is using (weapons, armor, shields, weapons used etc etc), combined into a total. And lets say the proto guy has a widget score of 80. For the sake of argument, we will assign a ISK value to the widget score, we'll 1 widget score = 3 ISK.

So in this example, the proto guy kills the militia guy with ease, and gets 45 ISK. But on the other hand, if the militia guy kills the proto guy (which he had to fight tooth and nail for), he gets 240 WP.

The main thing I am trying to convey here is that it is not easy for a militia gear guy to kill a proto guy, but is very easy for proto to kill militia. And the points earned should reflect that. I feel this would actually prove positive in many ways, it would help persuade the proto people to seek out and kill other proto people, rather than ravaging the, mostly likely new to the game, militia gear folks for easy kills and easy points.

I belive a player should only get what they deserve, and ravaging a militia gear guy with ease using proto weapons or whatever, should not be encouraged. Go battle somebody with your own skill level and time spent in game, rather than picking on the smell guy for easy rewards.


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Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.09.29 06:46:00 - [1] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: You sound familiar have I killed you before with a pistol?? There is a SYSTEM in place and that is running MILITIA suits for ZERO ISK with militia weapons. Makes it fun to kill folks running expensive getups. always and every day. i make it my mission to cause people who run around with prototype weapons and armor to lose isk. i kill them twice they are already losing isk. got to love the militia scout gear capping the heads off everyone that doesn't cheat the system.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.09.29 07:16:00 - [2] - Quote Shiro Mokuzan wrote: It's true in EVE and it's true here--don't field what you can't afford to lose. If you lose money with a certain fitting, it means it's too expensive. honesty they give too much isk away. SP should be a given amount per mission (they are changing it to a better system soonGäó) isk should be given on how well you accomplish the objective or help out team mates and then kills if killing isn't the objective.
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.09.29 08:11:00 - [3] - Quote Ieukoplast wrote: STB-TedNugent EV wrote: I really think they need to up the rate you get for killing people with militia gear. I have had rounds where I go 20 - 4 and still dont get paid enough to cover the 4 deaths..... That is a little confusing to me. I am not even using full proto gear. I really feel bad for the ones who are using full proto and do this. An adjustment would be nice. I think they should make some kind of increase when you use a fit that reaches a certain price. Any thoughts? Don't agree, if anything people need to get less from killing militia targets. ISK should be given out in terms of what is deserved with variables taken into consideration such as gear used vs gear taken out. Killing 100% militia gear (starter kits) is easy compared to taking out somebody with full blown proto everything. Militia gear people have weak shields, their armor is weak and they have no fancy grenades, neat devices like nano-hives, armor repairing ability or powerful weapons. You absolutely should not get more for killing these players. Everything should be broken down into variables for every single thing like, armor, shields, dropsuit, weapons used etc etc. And based on those variables should determine what points are given out. So lets make up a description term, lets say the militia gear guy has a widget score of 15, this adds up all the widget points from each part of what the player is using (weapons, armor, shields, weapons used etc etc), combined into a total. And lets say the proto guy has a widget score of 80. For the sake of argument, we will assign a ISK value to the widget score, we'll 1 widget score = 3 ISK. So in this example, the proto guy kills the militia guy with ease, and gets 45 ISK. But on the other hand, if the militia guy kills the proto guy (which he had to fight tooth and nail for), he gets 240 WP. The main thing I am trying to convey here is that it is not easy for a militia gear guy to kill a proto guy, but is very easy for proto to kill militia. And the points earned should reflect that. I feel this would actually prove positive in many ways, it would help persuade the proto people to seek out and kill other proto people, rather than ravaging the, mostly likely new to the game, militia gear folks for easy kills and easy points. I belive a player should only get what they deserve, and ravaging a militia gear guy with ease using proto weapons or whatever, should not be encouraged. Go battle somebody with your own skill level and time spent in game, rather than picking on the smell guy for easy rewards. so basically measure everything by isk take down. i like that idea. perhaps people will play smarter rather than pump out the proto suits and go on a killing spree against militia suits that have a tough time taking them down. there are downsides to this. one of the large negative sides i see is the fact that EVE players pay them not CCP. or at least that is what it will be at time of release if things actually work out. they pay the players to use the best suits and vehicles to make sure they win. another problem I'm seeing is the fact people will just not use the high suits at all. no one will get any isk what so ever no matter how many they kill. i believe that WP should be a base for this you get X money by the objective WP and 1/2 by other objective helping teammates. and if killing is not an objective you should be given 1/2 as well. if you are running around capping objectives you should get more isk than the useless STB sniper sitting on a building.