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jenza aranda wrote:

Tectonious Falcon wrote:

jenza aranda wrote:

i am a mass driver user and i have to say i love this weapon, it causes confusion, massive damage if used correctly and is just FUN!

the only people who says its bad are those who don't know how to use it properly ;)

That's what I thought when I first got it. It never glitched out and always did damage. Now it's gettin less and less reliable. Don't get me wrong I love this weapon and it's deadly when it works but the fact is that it doesn't always work the way it should. For example quite often when I fire a grenade and it hits someone it just vanishes. No explosion, no damage just poof. Gone. Some times I have to go back to using my shotgun when it stops working =ƒÿó

Hopefully with the improved hit detection in the new build I can use it full time Twisted

i have confirmed that while sometimes the animation doesnt work, it always does damage, though sometimes you can miss and nothing seems to happen, the damage radius still works.

I use the mass driver almost exclusively and i am deadly with it :D

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C 5398 4	Posted - 2012.09.28 23:35:00 - [1] - Quote Is it me or do they seem... useless atm. Your thoughts?
Fiasco Llana Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 251	Posted - 2012.09.28 23:42:00 - [2] - Quote Unless you skill in them, yes. Completely useless. Once shot two full mags sitting behind a sniper and it didn't even take his shield down.
AMARRKIS BetaMax. 71	Posted - 2012.09.28 23:45:00 - [3] - Quote not completely useless if there not leveled up they might scare someone into running away :/ could happen. But if you level them up their a great weapon to kill a group of enemy. Also great if your surrounded. I use to use it so blow vehicles up.
C 5398 4	Posted - 2012.09.28 23:51:00 - [4] - Quote Hmmmm, ill have to try to lvl them up. Thanks for the input. Oh, and is it me or dose it seem that some of the projectiles don't go off?
Ludwig Van Beatdropin Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 195	Posted - 2012.09.29 00:07:00 - [5] - Quote C 5398 wrote: Hmmmm, ill have to try to lvl them up. Thanks for the input. Oh, and is it me or dose it seem that some of the projectiles don't go off? I noticed the same thing, prob just a minor glitch, nothing ccp can't handle.
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.09.29 00:07:00 - [6] - Quote Level 5 mass driver w/ lvl 3 mass driver proficiency here. I have, at times, been very frustrated with the weapon but with practice and appreciation for what it is and does I am still committed to it as my primary armament. The MD is a fire suppression/anti vehicle-installation weapon. You will never have the kill rate with an MD that you will with most other weapons. But, for a logistics, like me it is pure gold. When I stand behind a shooter ( a blue guy with an AR, HMG,Smg,etc) I can fire over him into the enemy position with great effect. Kills are a by-product for MDs. Every time you connect with an enemy with any amount of splash dmg, the camera shake and controller feedback completely knocks their aim off. So, the bigger the splash radius ( assault driver, lookin at you) the more suppression of incoming fire you provide for you team. And, as mentioned above, these devices excel vs vehicles and installations (breach drvr ftw). Tips: always try to hold higher ground vs the target. Firing up is very hard and firing over level ground at short or med range is tricky. Always fight from the hi ground. Note: CCP has hinted, and I have come to agree, that the graphics/animation of round explosions is borked but the damage still occurs. My testing concurs with this. I can often fire rounds right next to a target, see and here no explosion but still see the splash dmg thier shields and armor. I do agree that there are still impact detection issues (bugged/blank) rounds but overall the weapon effectiveness has improved over the past two builds as well as with skill leveling, individual weapon choice and employment practice.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2012.09.29 00:10:00 - [7] - Quote C 5398 wrote: Is it me or do they seem... useless atm. Your thoughts? This is just pure speculation,so take it for what it's worth,but I think that the since the mass driver is a glorified grenade launcher(without the glory),it's using the same physics as the regular handheld grenades,and we all know how crappy they are. So it just seems that ALL grenade based projectiles are just junk right now.
howard sanchez Conspiratus Immortalis 448	Posted - 2012.09.29 00:13:00 - [8] - Quote AMARRKIS wrote: not completely useless if there not leveled up they might scare someone into running away :/ could happen. But if you level them up their a great weapon to kill a group of enemy. Also great if your surrounded. I use to use it so blow vehicles up. Not sure if there is sarcasm here or not but you are quite correct. It is very disconcerting to try and stand your ground with MD rounds landing all about you The in game effects are very good at foiling your aim and making you believe your taking a lot of dmg. I dissuade enemies and chase them off all the time w/ an assault driver. Love it
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.29 00:27:00 - [9] - Quote Just pulled one out in the last few games. Alot of people have been running away from me I think its upsetting the AR guys aim or somthing Not getting as many kills but pulling more sp per game now lolz. Assists 4tw. Prof skill is rubbish tho 3% radius wtf were they thinking should be at least 5%
Typo Name 78	Posted - 2012.09.29 01:26:00 - [10] - Quote Only problem I found is that when it doesn't explode, that means you wasted a good chunk of ammo. I'm using a mass driver as a scout- what's everyone else using it with?

Tectonious Falcon 23	Posted - 2012.09.29 01:38:00 - [11] - Quote Typo Name wrote: Only problem I found is that when it doesn't explode, that means you wasted a good chunk of ammo. I'm using a mass driver as a scout- what's everyone else using it with? I'm using it with a logistics suit. I've found with the mass driver that sometimes it works fine and sometimes it sucks. No way to predict when it will work
Typo Name 78	Posted - 2012.09.29 01:45:00 - [12] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Typo Name wrote: Only problem I found is that when it doesn't explode, that means you wasted a good chunk of ammo. I'm using a mass driver as a scout- what's everyone else using it with? I'm using it with a logistics suit. I've found with the mass driver that sometimes it works fine and sometimes it sucks. No way to predict when it will work That's why I carry a scrambler pistol with me. When I'm having bad luck with the mass driver, I can still rack up a nice amount of kills with the pistol.
Tectonious Falcon 23	Posted - 2012.09.29 05:36:00 - [13] - Quote Well I just fired 4 grenades at someone's feet and didn't even kill him. He was facing the other direction, wasn't moving and all the grenades exploded. So here's my list of things that need to be fixed: 1) Grenades should do slightly more damage. It's a GRENADE LAUNCHER for gods sake it's meant to be an effective anti infantry weapon 2) fix the hit detection/splash damage/non explosive grenades 3) Four grenades per reload is pathetic. The animation when you reload clearly shows about 8 slots for grenades. If they don't fix the damage then I at least hope I can fire more grenades. 4) fix the bug where any grenades that hit the enemy simply vanish without any damage. It also seems to me that assault rifle is ccp's favourite weapon...... It's has now where near as many drawbacks as the other weapons do. It has great accuracy, range and damage. Will add more things if I think of them
Sha Kharn Clone Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1087	Posted - 2012.09.29 06:47:00 - [14] - Quote This thing is super fun and I find its perfect if your on a server on the other side of the world. Also all my nades are exploding just dont aim at the sides of walls or hills and that keeps the fail rate down I think. Using on a scout also. Anyone found how effective these are against HMG users? They dont stand a chance aiming aint so easy when your being spammed by these.
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.09.29 07:30:00 - [15] - Quote I've seen an effective squad of 3 people. 1 Assault in the back with a MD, and two Scouts moving around in front of him with SMG's tearing up everything that already took splash damage.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.09.29 07:37:00 - [16] - Quote i am a mass driver user and i have to say i love this weapon, it causes confusion, massive damage if used correctly and is just FUN! the only people who says its bad are those who don't know how to use it properly ;)
Tectonious Falcon 23	Posted - 2012.09.29 07:44:00 - [17] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: i am a mass driver user and i have to say i love this weapon, it causes confusion, massive damage if used correctly and is just FUN! the only people who says its bad are those who don't know how to use it properly ;) That's what I thought when I first got it. It never glitched out and always did damage. Now it's gettin less and less reliable. Don't get me wrong I love this weapon and it's deadly when it works but the fact is that it doesn't always work the way it should. For example quite often when I fire a grenade and it hits someone it just vanishes. No explosion, no damage just poof. Gone. Some times I have to go back to using my shotgun when it stops working =ƒÿó Hopefully with the improved hit detection in the new build I can use it full time
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.09.29 07:51:00 - [18] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: jenza aranda wrote: i am a mass driver user and i have to say i love this weapon, it causes confusion, massive damage if used correctly and is just FUN! the only people who says its bad are those who don't know how to use it properly ;) That's what I thought when I first got it. It never glitched out and always did damage. Now it's gettin less and less reliable. Don't get me wrong I love this weapon and it's deadly when it works but the fact is that it doesn't always work the way it should. For example quite often when I fire a grenade and it hits someone it just vanishes. No explosion, no damage just poof. Gone. Some times I have to go back to using my shotgun when it stops working =ƒÿó Hopefully with the improved hit detection in the new build I can use it full time i have confirmed that while sometimes the animation doesnt work, it always does damage, though sometimes you can miss and nothing seems to happen, the damage radius still works. I use the mass driver almost exclusively and i am deadly with it :D
Ad ski IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 209	Posted - 2012.09.29 09:29:00 - [19] - Quote jenza aranda wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: jenza aranda wrote: i am a mass driver user and i have to say i love this weapon, it causes confusion, massive damage if used correctly and is just FUN! the only people who says its bad are those who don't know how to use it properly ;) That's what I thought when I first got it. It never glitched out and always did damage. Now it's gettin less and less reliable. Don't get me wrong I love this weapon and it's deadly when it works but the fact is that it doesn't always work the way it should. For example quite often when I fire a grenade and it hits someone it just vanishes. No explosion, no damage just poof. Gone. Some times I have to go back to using my shotgun when it stops working =ƒÿó Hopefully with the improved hit detection in the new build I can use it full time i have confirmed that while sometimes the animation doesnt work, it always does damage, though sometimes you can miss and nothing seems to happen, the damage radius still works. I use the mass driver almost exclusively and i am deadly with it :D Not deadly, just annoying to play against
Unit-775 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2012.09.29 09:48:00 - [20] - Quote Sha Kharn Clone wrote: Just pulled one out in the last few games. Alot of people have been running away from me I think its upsetting the AR guys aim or somthing Not getting as many kills but pulling more sp per game now lolz. Assists 4tw. Prof skill is rubbish tho 3% radius wtf were they thinking should be at least 5% I always run away, at close range you cant hit a scout who is using this, because it completely ruins your ability to aim. Truly annoying like hell.



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