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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.28 09:14:00 -
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So, Eukesei asked me if i had any knowledge about what you guys at CCP have planned to compensate loss of actual real money to server problems. Even though the amount of money that will be lost will most of the time be kinda small, i guess it's still no reason for people to lose items they bought without compensation.
At the moment, nobody really cares as it's a beta and every AUR will be refunded after each reset. But when game is released, i guess people who will lose even 2 euros or $ to a simple game freezing may want to ask for their money back. Wich seems kinda fair to me.
I'm not discussing the current technical problem with the precursor build. And as much as you will try to make the game more and more stable, we both know there's no way a MMOFPS can be 100% stable.
So, what's your plan regarding "real money - technical problem" ? |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:31:00 -
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i agree with the fact that it should stick to server side problems. But when your game freezes, i'd say there's a log or something that is generated and could be retrieved.
I dont plan on using much AUR fits either but i think it's a good question to raise. |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.28 23:38:00 -
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Kay High wrote:incase you guys didn't know, there is going to be a skill wipe next week. This means that you lose all of your stuff and SP. In other words everything you did during this build will have been (Paper wise not in information to the DEVS) for nothing. But the bright side of all this is that you will get ALL of your AR back and there is going to be another skill wipe before the game goes live at release so you'll have to go through this again.
QQ
before trying to say people are QQing, try and properly read what's written.. I mentionned the fact that this thread is not about CURRENT loss of AUR items in the beta but when the game is released. when there will be NO WIPE for you to get it back. What happens when a player says "hey, i just lost 5 fits that costed me almost 2 bucks and battle server just disconnected"
This is anticipation to raise a question that dealt with properly in advance could avoid CCP some problems in the future.
So please, when you dont read a post, dont reply to it. You will avoid looking like an idiot.
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:55:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:It is a beta, and any real money (AUR) used will be returned to your account at the resets. One definite tomorrow (Oct. 1st) and at least one more very likely, but not definitively confirmed, later. If you have a similar problem after launch, where a crash or game error causes you to loose assets, you can petition this to [email protected].
why do you people keep saying that !! That's proof enough you didnt read the OP. And that's freaking annoying !
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BETA LOSSES ! |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.01 07:52:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:
BPO's are all low level items. Very low level.
As for AUR giving advantages, that is a very fine balance, one that I'm still afraid CCP will fail in achieving. You do NOT want a Pay2Win system, and AUR is already borderline that, with the most grievous items finally removed.
What AUR allows you to do, and what it should be limited to do, is to get suits or items for AUR, instead of ISK, in case you are incapable of affording the higher end items. Also I can accept the AUR items allowing access to higher tier items at lower skill requirements. This is still a grey area P2W wise.
I've previously suggested abolishing the AUR system entirely, and allow Dust players to sell 5 and 10 day PLEX cards to EVE players instead. Maybe that will help bring down the PLEX cost somewhat.
This is all well and nice but CCP needs to make money. And honestly, AUR isnt even barely pay-to-win at the moment. Except for items that dont have any ISK equivalent yet. But clearly, the difference between ISK and AUR items is so thin that we shouldnt even be bothered.
Same goes for the "get advanced weapon early". As in fact, what makes and advanced weapon\suit really better than the previous one is the combination of basic stats AND skills, using "blindire AR" doesnt make any difference compared to standard AR. Yet, people will buy blindire and give CCP money => Me Happy.
But abolishing entirely AUR system ? i mean, how do you fund the game.
Anyway, this isnt about AUR system but about how CCP plans to protect itself from those demands wich THEY WILL GET, no doubt about that.
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No one loses real money. As soon as you buy your Aurum you have lost any real world monetary value the purchased items have.
If you don't agree with this then you shouldn't be playing.
Not so sure about that buddy.... It would be like sayin "oh you bought a PSN game and it suddenly doesnt work ? Too bad you lost any real value your money had when you bought the game"
Same goes with a game like Fifa Ultimate Team. And believe me that when you lose cards to a server error or freeze, you can ask EA to investigate and they refund\give back your cards if they find any proof. It happend to me.
Also, as there has been a lot of 'hacking" of accounts going on, EA had to reimburse those as well.
So, next time you make statements like that without any actual knowledge, and imply i shouldnt be playing. (where in fact i anticipate something that could harm CCP). Please refrain from participating. |
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