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Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.09.27 07:20:00 -
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I just had the funniest match in regards to stealing kills. The most notable event was this: I had freshly spawned and was making my way towards the "blob" of teammates in an ambush match. When I arrived on the location, I noticed they were all shooting at a single heavy enemy, and by 'they' I mean literally about 7-8 of my teammates completely surrounding this one guy unloading lead into his torso. They heavy was jumping around and did a decent time surviving the enraged riot with assault rifles, but in the end was totally outmatched and a guaranteed death.
So I, who just arrived on the scene, decided to take part in this witch hunt. I aim in the general direction of this heavy and sloppily sling a few bullets his way just for kicks. Well within those few bullets contained the "end" packet which terminated the heavies life, so I hilariously netted the kill.
This seemed to happen a lot to me in this match, only a few kills were actually ones I earned, the rest were from lucky last shot situations reaping the rewards that other players deserved.
Anywho, not much point to this thread, just felt the need to share. Post stories of your own kill stealing endeavors if you wish. |
I-SHAYZ-I
24
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Posted - 2012.09.27 08:31:00 -
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The way it's set up right now is better than CoD for me.
If a player runs behind cover and has a small chunk of armor remaining and I kill him, I should be rewarded for the kill, not just given assist points for dealing "the rest of the damage" |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.09.27 08:56:00 -
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I-SHAYZ-I wrote:The way it's set up right now is better than CoD for me.
If a player runs behind cover and has a small chunk of armor remaining and I kill him, I should be rewarded for the kill, not just given assist points for dealing "the rest of the damage"
I think you should still get the kill, but only get the points you deserved, in terms of participation. |
Needless Sacermendor
98
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:07:00 -
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I've had this a lot myself ... running swarm SMG I have to get closer so by the time I'm in range the ARs have already dealt the damage and started reloading and I end up finishing them off while they're reloading, it works well as a tactic but I do think the damage dealers should maybe be rewarded more or as much as I am.
Fair enough I get the kill as I killed them, they might have retreated and survived otherwise, but if I've only dealt 20 hp and 1 merc dealt 200 he should be rewarded more WP than me (which is the important statistic)
Maybe something along the lines of 10 points for an assist of any damage ... 25 for the kill shot ... and 50 for doing the main damage. Only problem would be how to cut off the 'start' of the engagement to calculate who did the most damage, you couldn't say since he had full health, maybe just most damage within 30 seconds before the kill shot could work.
Just an idea, can't see it happening we'll probably just have to live with it. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:34:00 -
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Talking about percentages & who gets what points is just going to overcomplicate it and just cause more arguements.
The system is fine the way it is if I'm going to be brutally honest. |
Ieukoplast
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:37:00 -
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Zerlathon wrote:Talking about percentages & who gets what points is just going to overcomplicate it and just cause more arguements.
The system is fine the way it is if I'm going to be brutally honest.
Not very revolutionary though. Just the same as every other FPS online game out there, doesn't matter who did the most work, whoever gets the kill gets the reward. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.27 10:23:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:Zerlathon wrote:Talking about percentages & who gets what points is just going to overcomplicate it and just cause more arguements.
The system is fine the way it is if I'm going to be brutally honest. Not very revolutionary though. Just the same as every other FPS online game out there, doesn't matter who did the most work, whoever gets the kill gets the reward.
Revolutionary? Well no it's not... However it is the best compomise without overcomplicating it.
There are so many things that need to be taken into consideration (reppers, shields, etc). So how would you judge what is "fair"?
Some things are best kept simple. |
Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2012.09.27 11:13:00 -
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There are good systems though. I do 99% damage but get a flat assist? Nah. Try the kill shot gives 100% percent of the kill and the assist guys get the damage percent they did as a bonus. |
Clove PsyKoz
15
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Posted - 2012.09.27 13:36:00 -
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For these random meaningless deathmatches, yeah getting kills stolen is annoying, or amusing if you're the one stealing them.
But for the real battles that are to come. There won't be randoms all around me. I will know every single soldier on my side. They will be my corp mates, and in those battles i could care less who gets the kill as long as that mother ****** we're shooting is dead and we just caused him to lose some isk. |
Prince Ombra
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.09.27 13:53:00 -
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Try being a sniper. Lots of times I see enemy reinforcements rushing to attack my team so I snipe one and get the dude down to a sliver of armour but can't get the kill and later on the merc gets killed by my teammate. However, the snipe and the kill are too far apart in time for me to even get the assist. At that point I just sigh and swallow my sense of injustice. |
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Cyn Bruin
90
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:21:00 -
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Watch out for a guy named Sleepy Zan, that dude is the biggest kill stealer of all... then he laughs about it.  |
Sleepy Zan
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:02:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote: Watch out for a guy named Sleepy Zan, that dude is the biggest kill stealer of all... then he laughs about it.
Yep, I'm just a kill ***** parasite. 9/10s of all my kills really belong to poor little Cyn here apparently  |
Cyn Bruin
90
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:08:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Cyn Bruin wrote: Watch out for a guy named Sleepy Zan, that dude is the biggest kill stealer of all... then he laughs about it. Yep, I'm just a kill ***** parasite. 9/10s of all my kills really belong to poor little Cyn here apparently
All your clones belong to me |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:20:00 -
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There's no i in team.
The faster a clone can be put down the better. If I sliver a clone and my team mate gets the kill then great, one clone closer to winning. I know it will come around to me, when I get to put the finishing shot on a clone.
Play to win as a team and this becomes a mute point. |
Prince Ombra
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:25:00 -
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I daresay it might even be a moot point. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:29:00 -
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i see nothing wrong with "steal killing" or as i also call it, "helping a brother out". i'd rather you help then stand there like a tool and watch, i do the same, if i can help i will help, i wont stand there and risk you possibly dying. |
Noob Noobuler
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:35:00 -
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Ieukoplast wrote:I just had the funniest match in regards to stealing kills. The most notable event was this: I had freshly spawned and was making my way towards the "blob" of teammates in an ambush match. When I arrived on the location, I noticed they were all shooting at a single heavy enemy, and by 'they' I mean literally about 7-8 of my teammates completely surrounding this one guy unloading lead into his torso. They heavy was jumping around and did a decent time surviving the enraged riot with assault rifles, but in the end was totally outmatched and a guaranteed death.
So I, who just arrived on the scene, decided to take part in this witch hunt. I aim in the general direction of this heavy and sloppily sling a few bullets his way just for kicks. Well within those few bullets contained the "end" packet which terminated the heavies life, so I hilariously netted the kill.
This seemed to happen a lot to me in this match, only a few kills were actually ones I earned, the rest were from lucky last shot situations reaping the rewards that other players deserved.
Anywho, not much point to this thread, just felt the need to share. Post stories of your own kill stealing endeavors if you wish.
lol i did that sniping people with seemingly no health in the games |
Noob Noobuler
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
79
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:36:00 -
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Ima Leet wrote:i see nothing wrong with "steal killing" or as i also call it, "helping a brother out". i'd rather you help then stand there like a tool and watch, i do the same, if i can help i will help, i wont stand there and risk you possibly dying.
indeed,its what i do ,its happened to me a few times too when i am forced to run away because im just carrying a sniper because lack of cpu componets |
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