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howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:42:00 -
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There are a lot of Dust players who excel at thier role. And that role is demanding and skill intensive: the shooter.
If you love K:D ratios and you consider the muzzle of your weapon to be the pointy tip of your squad's spear, you are probably a shooter
But there are a lot of roles to play on a dust team and I don't believe, as a community, we have recognized them all or developed how they can each contribute to a corporation's mission.
Consider Logistics. Not just a healer, more than a mechanic, beyond resupply - a good logistics player should envision his/her role as a battle space shaper.
Each team, each squad in fact, and every merc should always have a sense of where they're on the battlefield with regard to everyone else.
Getting mercs to the right place at the right time with the right supplies can be a logistic's specialty
One of the tenets of Dust combat is to stick with your squad ( focus fire, cross support, unified effort). A good logistics player will consider the map while preparing to spawn and decide where his squad is headed ( the objective) and where they can fallback to if necessary (the base).
Drop an uplink (gauged preferably) near the base and get behind your squad. As you contact the enemy make sure you look for cover and lanes of egress back to whatever semi-defensible position you call the base. Drop nanohives in spots with some cover for replenishment. Drop that second uplink where you want reinforcements to spawn closer to the line of battle.
Assaults and heavies ( all shooters) should be establishing that line. When facing enemies, the shooters should fan out abreast and create a front line. Will this look neat and pretty, like a formal dance? No, but the concept of forming an offensive line and moving to provide flanking fire vs an enemy position is what shooters do best.
Logistics HOLD that line. We support the line. We repair the line, resupply it and revive it when possible.
Everyone in squad should move in line (together); shooters should form the line ( the moment the shooting starts); and logistics hold the line by providing support and suppressive fire ( love my assault MD).
This is how we can shape the battle space and successfully fill our logistical role. |
Mode Torsen
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
11
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:53:00 -
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Good post +1 |
Dante Brown
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:54:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:There are a lot of Dust players who excel at thier role. And that role is demanding and skill intensive: the shooter.
If you love K:D ratios and you consider the muzzle of your weapon to be the pointy tip of your squad's spear, you are probably a shooter
But there are a lot of roles to play on a dust team and I don't believe, as a community, we have recognized them all or developed how they can each contribute to a corporation's mission.
Consider Logistics. Not just a healer, more than a mechanic, beyond resupply - a good logistics player should envision his/her role as a battle space shaper.
Each team, each squad in fact, and every merc should always have a sense of where they're on the battlefield with regard to everyone else.
Getting mercs to the right place at the right time with the right supplies can be a logistic's specialty
One of the tenets of Dust combat is to stick with your squad ( focus fire, cross support, unified effort). A good logistics player will consider the map while preparing to spawn and decide where his squad is headed ( the objective) and where they can fallback to if necessary (the base).
Drop an uplink (gauged preferably) near the base and get behind your squad. As you contact the enemy make sure you look for cover and lanes of egress back to whatever semi-defensible position you call the base. Drop nanohives in spots with some cover for replenishment. Drop that second uplink where you want reinforcements to spawn closer to the line of battle.
Assaults and heavies ( all shooters) should be establishing that line. When facing enemies, the shooters should fan out abreast and create a front line. Will this look neat and pretty, like a formal dance? No, but the concept of forming an offensive line and moving to provide flanking fire vs an enemy position is what shooters do best.
Logistics HOLD that line. We support the line. We repair the line, resupply it and revive it when possible.
Everyone in squad should move in line (together); shooters should form the line ( the moment the shooting starts); and logistics hold the line by providing support and suppressive fire ( love my assault MD).
This is how we can shape the battle space and successfully fill our logistical role.
One time I saw 6 guys in decked out protosuits standing infront of me with one logistic guy behind them.
Nearly Pooped my dropsuit. |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
107
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:59:00 -
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Howard Sanchez, you're a man after my own heart. I like how you think!
+1 |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:04:00 -
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My K:D = .46
After much consideration of my effectiveness and contribution to my team's overall success I have determined, I am doin' it right.
There is much more to digital combat than K:D. Let's discuss alternative roles and how they contribute and what really good players ( not just shooters ) can do to lift team & corporate success. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:07:00 -
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Excellent post. I know guys who dedicate themselves to drop-ship piloting, though not enough of them imo. I would personally like to see each squad have a dedicated logi. |
howard sanchez
Conspiratus Immortalis
448
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:46:00 -
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Thank you, gentlemen.
There are so many roles we haven't even considered. The 'Commander'? Whatever the name for the player in the MCC...
What will his role be like? I thought CCP said his gameplay may be more RTS-like. Sometimes, when I look at the full tactical map, I wish there were a way to feed intel I see there to the squad leaders.
It's cool how the game passes info via that smooth gold popup box for orbital strikes and stuff. Maybe the MCC player could send some info via that route to one or more squad leaders.
I expect he or she may be responsible for prioritizing and executing incoming vehicle requests. And we really haven't seen or heard much about installation deployment.
Regardless, I expect that, as with all successful Gaming Clans, Guilds or Groups the most profitable, revered and powerful Corporations will be those that employ multiple roles at their maximum efficiency thereby realizing the most effective combined arms fighting force. And, I am just now appreciating my own tendency to type in run-on sentences in an inverse proportion to my level of Sobriety. |
Tyler Hall
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2012.09.27 05:35:00 -
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when i'm not piloting a vehicle i'm always running logistics...i wish people would stop mashing the freaking O button, man gimme a chance to revive you. this is very annoying espcially in an ambush match where te objective is to keep your clones alive. i mean i can be in a group of mercs and the second one falls, instead of waiting a sec so the group can try to stand up against the horde, i hear the death groan intantly...and soon half of the group is death groaning without even giving us medics a chance. oh well, i'm getting used to it...all but all the groaning and moaning surrounding me, sometimes sounds like a big death orgy. |
Zerlathon
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.09.27 08:42:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR9OY8Nh1NM |
V4DOL
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.09.27 17:16:00 -
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I run Logistics, currently I either run Rep/Hive/Link or Rep/Hive/Injector. The main issue I have with being able to do my job is that the front line (or more specifically, my squad) does not like to stay together. Even when I am in created squads, unless we are sitting there holding the North depot, they just don't seem to want to stay together. When a member of the squad goes down, you need to regroup. Three bodies is much less effective and deadly than the full four. When your Logi gets popped, it's a pretty good idea to find him again. Just the reps and hives alone will keep you shooters doing your thing, add in the revives or doplinks and I just don't see why more people feel the need to solo it.
TL;DR KDR is not everything, regrouping and being with Squad it. Find your LogiBro if he dies. |
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