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Goliath Raven
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:41:00 -
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Just wondering how people would feel about having an entire squads Sp/Wp dumped into one pot for a match and then split between everyone in the squad?
I think this is the best way to encourage team cooperation.
If they gave us a system for kicking out players (and their attributed sp/wp) then we would not have to worry about moochers too.
Here's what made me think of this.
I was flying a dropship with my squad on guns and in seats. We flew from objective to objective, raining hell down on people from the gun turrets and then one or two guys would hop out to cap the point while we provided cover. Then I would land, pick up team mates and haul kittens to the next objective rinse and repeat. We did this to AMAZING success! Which is what I think the dropship should be used like. However at the end of the match the scores came in. I got close to 30k sp, meh. My gunners got 40k-50k sp each. The guy who captured something like 6 points and 4 cru/supply depots got 250k sp!!! Isk was rewarded similarly spread. This setup was GREAT for that one guy but really three of us were doing the majority of the work with little reward. Not cool.
Now I know they are adjusting the scoring system and adding more ways to get points but what worries me is that the current system is too complex. It relies on CCP recognizing every clever way a team could make sp and distributing it to individuals accordingly. I think it would be much simpler to just pool these per match and split the winnings. It will encourage more team play and encourage people to try and stay with teams they work really well with which plays well into corporations.
What do you guys think?
tl;dr Pool all wp for a match and split it between everyone on squad.
EDIT: Maybe not wp as that would mess up leaderboards. Rewards (sp and isk) though I think should be split.
EDIT: Ok lets try this. How about when you create a squad, you have to choose the reward split type between members. Normal or Even split. Normal being how it is now, Even being everyone pools and rewards are split evenly by all members. Public squads would default to Normal split. Does this sound good to everyone? |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:48:00 -
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Wringneck wrote:Works for me in theory, but what about loners who won't work with the team? Will they get a cut of of everyone elses share?
I'd say the squad could kick them or he could start his own squad and lock it if he really wants to be a loner. |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.25 20:51:00 -
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Fivetimes Infinity wrote:The way to encourage teamwork is with stuff like the crusader suit and its team-boosting mods. People are going to do their thing, but if they know they'll get more kills/fewer deaths rocking it near their squad leader, then that's what they'll be more liable to do.
If you make it by squad, all you'll do is drop peoples' SP/ISK gain on account of the squad they were randomly assigned to. It will suck for the people who get stuck in a squad of bad players. That wouldn't foster teamwork, it'd just make people rage over chat at their squad of pubbies, imploring them to stop sucking.
So I'm 100% against this idea. Encouraging teamwork should be about carrots, not sticks.
So when you did find a good group of people you did really well with, you would want to stay with that group correct? Maybe start up a corp? If your worried about "pubbies" sapping your rewards you can start a squad and lock it to yourself. Matches are by player count correct? As far as I know there is no squad limit. |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.25 21:04:00 -
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Super Cargo wrote:I say just give a bonus for top squad. There are plenty of issues that would be created for randoms if SP/ISK was split between squad members.
List a few and we can discuss them? |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
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Posted - 2012.09.26 00:40:00 -
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Is everyone here a lone-wolf? You just have to find a squad of people who complement your gameplay, then you have nothing to complain about split wise right? Everyone in your squad works together and makes more. If your really want to lone wolf, you can single person squad it. Sure if you just lazily drift from public squad to public squad, there will be times where part of what would have been your reward will go to someone else and there will be times where what should have been their reward will go to you. So what? If you don't like that, that is a good thing. You should be encouraged to find a squad you like. |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.26 16:54:00 -
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Ok lets try this. How about when you create a squad, you have to choose the reward split type between members. Normal or Even split. Normal being how it is now, Even being everyone pools and rewards are split evenly by all members. Public squads would default to Normal split. Does this sound good to everyone?
Added suggestion to OP for those who don't read all responses. |
Goliath Raven
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.26 17:28:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Simple fix to this tbh
Leave the squad
Why should my WP/SP/ISK be split with 3 other retards atm that i maybe carrying
... I'm sorry, are you in support or opposition of the idea? What is simple to fix? |
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