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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:05:00 -
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Yes because lord knows we can't have balance between a player who has a twelve hour job with a family and a player who has absolutely nothing to do other than play Dust 514 for sixteen hours straight...
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. ^ That thing there? ^ That's sarcasm. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:54:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yes because lord knows we can't have balance between a player who has a twelve hour job with a family and a player who has absolutely nothing to do other than play Dust 514 for sixteen hours straight...
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. ^ That thing there? ^ That's sarcasm. how is that relevent to SP FARMING???????????
Well why else -wouldn't- you want an SP cap unless you wanted to power-grind beyond any other player's capability because you have more time than they do? If it's left open ended someone could just blaze through and advance like mad by comparison to someone who couldn't. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:06:00 -
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ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ReGnUM SLAYER DEI wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Yes because lord knows we can't have balance between a player who has a twelve hour job with a family and a player who has absolutely nothing to do other than play Dust 514 for sixteen hours straight...
Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. ^ That thing there? ^ That's sarcasm. how is that relevent to SP FARMING??????????? Well why else -wouldn't- you want an SP cap unless you wanted to power-grind beyond any other player's capability because you have more time than they do? If it's left open ended someone could just blaze through and advance like mad by comparison to someone who couldn't. POWER GRINDING IS NOT SP FARMING
Oh snap - did I touch a nerve? I'm sorry, let me make for it by... Yeah, you know what, don't worry about it.
Listen bub, Eve Online ain't a game you just power grind through and get to level 85. There's no reason you should be able to power-grind and advance faster than anyone else just because you've got more time on your hands than the average working class. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:21:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:smh sometimes i wonder CCP..... why have a cap? makes no sense if someone is playing well they should be rewarded and like noc said if its based on doin a certain amount of actions alot then thats gonna hurt the "slayers" as Regnum said. Slayers jobs are to kill and defend their obj players while they cap the objective and to help secure the area so their obj players can have an easier time cappin objectives
HOPEFULLY it wont affect something like kills but still it hurts logi players if its gonna cap actions like repairs
If it's a daily cap it'd just balance everything out so that no-one could soar past anyone else. I like the idea and fully support it because that's how Eve Online works. No-one has any means of advancing faster than anyone else that could not get the exact same capabilities. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:22:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:If I had decided to fix the problem with a warpoint/skillpoint cap, I suppose what comes to mind first is a tight cap on repairing incidental or damage(maybe the total hp of the vehicle, just pulling anumber out of my a**) and no cap on repairing damage taken from enemy fire.
And no cap on warpoint/skillpoints for kills/hacks/etc.
I don't see the downside to this. It doesn't restrict player behavior, and it doesn't reward farming. Done.
But it does restrict memory bandwidth in game by having an entire system to calculate whether or not 'x' damage was inflicted by 'y' circumstance and whether or not 'x' damage should or should not be repaired by 'z' person.
Now multiply that by every single vehicle/player in the game and you've got a huge issue. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:33:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:All i cna see hear from all the moaning is a lot of people who don't play many FPS games.
In EVERY game i've ever played this happens.............. EVRY SINGLE ONE.
The games where it happens least or not at all are the ones people actually get more fun etc. out of actually playing the game.
yes i know its a beta...........
but it's so so boring that is why people are looking for ways to get more kills ( i.e. tanks )
to get more SP to try stuff out ( hence farming )
for gods sake make people enjoy and want to play this or it's good night.
You haven't played many persistent territory games then mate. Go give Aion a shot or something - might very well change your opinion. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:50:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:All i cna see hear from all the moaning is a lot of people who don't play many FPS games.
In EVERY game i've ever played this happens.............. EVRY SINGLE ONE.
The games where it happens least or not at all are the ones people actually get more fun etc. out of actually playing the game.
yes i know its a beta...........
but it's so so boring that is why people are looking for ways to get more kills ( i.e. tanks )
to get more SP to try stuff out ( hence farming )
for gods sake make people enjoy and want to play this or it's good night. You haven't played many persistent territory games then mate. Go give Aion a shot or something - might very well change your opinion. What is wrong with you people, i dont know or care if its an eve versus fps thing. An '' i like this and so should you '' thing. I dont care.............. but i'm telling you i have played enough pc games and console games to know what makes people play and keep playing and what doesn't. right now the way this stands. i'm sorry, it's terrible. Oh and before i get some troll say '' well give your reasons '' I am not prepared to wrote a five page essay on whats wrong and how to fix it. if ccp want to pay me to sort this gmae out fine till then.
So - you read my response in the wrong light. That wasn't posted up in some form of arrogance or "eve vs whatever" manner - I was just telling you that people who are going to be playing this game are going to be playing it because it's something they can invest in. Aion ain't the greatest game in the world but people play it - and they're freaggin serious about it.
This is a niche game. Gaining more frakkin' SP just because you're playing more often or are "better" (hah) isn't what's going to make this game playable or increase it's replayability factor - it's the action/consequence effect and persistent risk/rewards factors. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:01:00 -
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Seran Jinkar wrote:
Yet farming SP in the red zone where you are perfectly safe and risking nothing doesn't sound very freaggin serious to me. Rather sounds like an exploit in a mechanism that was intended to enumerate CONTRIBUTION. Doing nothing doesn't sound like contribution at all.
Imposing a cap would make it to where the value of doing that wasn't as worthwhile as it wouldn't matter -what- you were doing you'd still be prevented from doing it far too often.
You can't just up and ban people for doing it because there's cause for concern/room for error in it being abused or a legitimate vehicle repair. What happens if my team has a three main Logistics team that is purposefully sitting at base to repair incoming dropships/LAVs so that we don't run as high of a risk of them losing Prototype gear on the field - hanging behind the frontline where they can dedicate their entire focus to their specialization?
I'm all for balance and this fix seems like it kills two birds with one stone. Once the children quit crying foul because they're no longer able to power-game then everything will calm down and even out. |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:04:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:
Look I'm sorry i wasn't aswering you directly, i was answering in generall, just happened to quote your post as its in the same vein.
I am what i guess you would call a '' hard core gamer '' and i have seen what works and what doesn't.
COD is popular because its a kids and casuals game.
farcry2 was in the middle because it took an age to rank stuff but could be played for 5 mins then left.
MAG was popular at first, was an adults game and took teamwork and skill. it died because of sony and zipper and was not supported.
these are just games i've used to try to explain.
yes this will be a neiche market to a large extent but it still has to make whoever plays it..... want to play it.
Well what's not to love about crushing forum trolls/warriors with brutal efficiency in a virtual world and backing them so far into a corner that they have to hire out another corporation to do anything about it =P |
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:16:00 -
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ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS wrote:slap26 wrote:Turn on ff and let the problem sort itself out lol............ you really have no idea....... things will get a hundred times worse and there will be many many more dust deletions from ps3's.
After looking at the forums, I welcome that result. |
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