DUST Search - Regarding the Heavy Machine Gun nerf

Jane DeArc wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

So, a while back they nerfed the hell out of the Heavy Machine Gun because there was no mass system in play to reduce turn speed - it was supposed to be a temporary fix as everyone and their mother was using it.

My question is, when is it going to be brought back to it's original attributes now that the mass system is in..? Seriously, I'm using a Prototype Heavy Machine Gun and unloading entire magazines into -assault suits-. Two major issues are present with this:

A.) 300 rounds and not a single one lands at <20m. This is abyssmal. If I can't even land rounds on the enemy to even give suppressive fire for my team to advance on them - why the hell should the enemy be afraid of it? For something that -gains- accuracy when you're firing it - it sure doesn't work out in your favor.

B.) The damage is terrible. Assuming you do land a hit you'd better hope to god you land more than one. With bonuses the prototype heavy machine gun does less damage per round than an assault rifle - which is fitting, on the assumption that it's incredible rate of fire was worth a damn in combination to it's hit detection.

CCP, comments?

This belongs in Feedback rather than General Discussion.

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Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.09.23 01:35:00 - [1] - Quote So, a while back they nerfed the hell out of the Heavy Machine Gun because there was no mass system in play to reduce turn speed - it was supposed to be a temporary fix as everyone and their mother was using it. My question is, when is it going to be brought back to it's original attributes now that the mass system is in..? Seriously, I'm using a Prototype Heavy Machine Gun and unloading entire magazines into -assault suits-. Two major issues are present with this: A.) 300 rounds and not a single one lands at <20m. This is abyssmal. If I can't even land rounds on the enemy to even give suppressive fire for my team to advance on them - why the hell should the enemy be afraid of it? For something that -gains- accuracy when you're firing it - it sure doesn't work out in your favor. B.) The damage is terrible. Assuming you do land a hit you'd better hope to god you land more than one. With bonuses the prototype heavy machine gun does less damage per round than an assault rifle - which is fitting, on the assumption that it's incredible rate of fire was worth a damn in combination to it's hit detection. CCP, comments?
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.09.23 01:42:00 - [2] - Quote Great question! Would love to have the beast back
Necrodermis GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 460	Posted - 2012.09.23 01:45:00 - [3] - Quote i think the SMG should take a hit. the things maxed out can do insane DPS for something that takes a small slot. a maxed out SMG can out dps nearly every assault rifle.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.09.23 02:00:00 - [4] - Quote Necrodermis wrote: i think the SMG should take a hit. the things maxed out can do insane DPS for something that takes a small slot. a maxed out SMG can out dps nearly every assault rifle. It is fairly insane, and with the sharpshooter skills trained up the range is .....frightening.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Legacy Rising 404	Posted - 2012.09.23 02:05:00 - [5] - Quote I just tried a heavy for the first time, and now that i'm getting to lvl 3 skills in just about everything and using the type II or skinweave suit, the heavy/(hmg or forge) seems pretty beastly as is. I haven't even trained shield skills yet for the type II suit. I've been thinking that when the skills get close to maxing out even the current version of the heavy is hella scary. Can't imagine what it was like before. EDIT: I've had the same frustrations, Aeon, but I've just been writing it off to lag/registration. When everything is working right that big clip in the HMG can do some serious damage.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.09.23 02:08:00 - [6] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I just tried a heavy for the first time, and now that i'm getting to lvl 3 skills in just about everything and using the type II or skinweave suit, the heavy/(hmg or forge) seems pretty beastly as is. I haven't even trained shield skills yet for the type II suit. I've been thinking that when the skills get close to maxing out even the current version of the heavy is hella scary. Can't imagine what it was like before. You must live in the server room then. Just saying.
Jane DeArc Militaires Sans Jeux 87	Posted - 2012.09.23 02:32:00 - [7] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: So, a while back they nerfed the hell out of the Heavy Machine Gun because there was no mass system in play to reduce turn speed - it was supposed to be a temporary fix as everyone and their mother was using it. My question is, when is it going to be brought back to it's original attributes now that the mass system is in..? Seriously, I'm using a Prototype Heavy Machine Gun and unloading entire magazines into -assault suits-. Two major issues are present with this: A.) 300 rounds and not a single one lands at <20m. This is abyssmal. If I can't even land rounds on the enemy to even give suppressive fire for my team to advance on them - why the hell should the enemy be afraid of it? For something that -gains- accuracy when you're firing it - it sure doesn't work out in your favor. B.) The damage is terrible. Assuming you do land a hit you'd better hope to god you land more than one. With bonuses the prototype heavy machine gun does less damage per round than an assault rifle - which is fitting, on the assumption that it's incredible rate of fire was worth a damn in combination to it's hit detection. CCP, comments? This belongs in Feedback rather than General Discussion.
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.09.23 02:37:00 - [8] - Quote Jane DeArc wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: So, a while back they nerfed the hell out of the Heavy Machine Gun because there was no mass system in play to reduce turn speed - it was supposed to be a temporary fix as everyone and their mother was using it. My question is, when is it going to be brought back to it's original attributes now that the mass system is in..? Seriously, I'm using a Prototype Heavy Machine Gun and unloading entire magazines into -assault suits-. Two major issues are present with this: A.) 300 rounds and not a single one lands at <20m. This is abyssmal. If I can't even land rounds on the enemy to even give suppressive fire for my team to advance on them - why the hell should the enemy be afraid of it? For something that -gains- accuracy when you're firing it - it sure doesn't work out in your favor. B.) The damage is terrible. Assuming you do land a hit you'd better hope to god you land more than one. With bonuses the prototype heavy machine gun does less damage per round than an assault rifle - which is fitting, on the assumption that it's incredible rate of fire was worth a damn in combination to it's hit detection. CCP, comments? This belongs in Feedback rather than General Discussion. Not really. It's not feedback, it's an inquiry and discussion. Were it feedback, I would have stated my opinions and not asked for anyone's validation on them.
Darky SI 232	Posted - 2012.09.23 10:49:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi you can't believe for how long we have been asking CCP to fix the heavy class its broken it has no role in the battlefield. I support every Heavy-related threads just to make CCP notice us cause we are minority in this beta.


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