DUST Search - eve is brutal and dust...

Kazeno Rannaa wrote:

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

If they made Dust 514 like EVE in terms of inaccessibility and unforgiving gameplay, the handful of EVE players who own a PS3 and will play Dust would have a whole forum to themselves within which to gloat about how awesome it is that the game isn't "carebear", because for some reason that is a thing a game shouldn't be or whatever.

EVE's learning curve is a flaw. Making a product that is so complex, so quickly, and so unforgiving of mistakes should never be something a sensible designer aspires to. Unless you're making a game like I Wanna Be The Guy, that is.

So, yeah, the game should be accessible to new players, should accommodate mistakes and stuff, should have a good tutorial that explains how things works, and shouldn't have that "Here's a Rubik's cube, go **** yourself." attitude that EVE does.

This is so indicative of the American educational system and our propensity to to "dumb" things down so that everyone can access it. Listen, everyone can access it, just like the sciences, yet not everyone is going to be Einstein or Hawking, nor are they going to be the best DUSTER either. Not everyone can ride a bike, and sure as hell not everyone should be riding in the Tour de France.

What ever happened to a bit of natural selection and the occasional culling of the herd??

The thing is that it is ok not to be the best in this game from the get go.

And don't get me wrong or begin to troll with the fact of everything needs to be balanced and the learning curve in EVE is a flaw. Would you say the learning in life is a flaw, or just a REALITY?!?

It also plays to an old adage in the military, "the only dumb question is the one not asked!!!" Get my drift here?? We are in a community of people, everyone with their own experiences and contextualizations of those experiences. If some one has a question, ask it. Get over the feeling of embarrassment and get to the meat of the issue: I want to play this game well and DON'T want to get my arse handed to me ALL of the TIME. What can I do to avoid, or mitigate this????

Not that hard. Now if someone chooses to go it alone without asking questions, SOL!!! Your choice, not mine or anyone else's. The balancing in the weapons I can see, maybe in the equipment also (except for the reduction in suit HP, that was kind BS. What the hell do I want to pay 130000 ISK for just extra CPU and PG and not get a little bit more protection????

Same goes for the vehicles. You think in anyone of the last 10 countries that have been invaded by a major world power were crying "hey, this is unfair, would you balance the equipment so I don't get romp and stomped?" Well, they probably were, but then that comes down to the 7P's of life.

Prior Proper Planning Prevents **** Poor Performance.

Live it, Breath it, Love IT!!!!


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H4rabec Weathers 16	Posted - 2012.09.20 17:27:00 - [1] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: Fivetimes Infinity wrote: If they made Dust 514 like EVE in terms of inaccessibility and unforgiving gameplay, the handful of EVE players who own a PS3 and will play Dust would have a whole forum to themselves within which to gloat about how awesome it is that the game isn't "carebear", because for some reason that is a thing a game shouldn't be or whatever. EVE's learning curve is a flaw. Making a product that is so complex, so quickly, and so unforgiving of mistakes should never be something a sensible designer aspires to. Unless you're making a game like I Wanna Be The Guy, that is. So, yeah, the game should be accessible to new players, should accommodate mistakes and stuff, should have a good tutorial that explains how things works, and shouldn't have that "Here's a Rubik's cube, go ** yourself." attitude that EVE does. This is so indicative of the American educational system and our propensity to to "dumb" things down so that everyone can access it. Listen, everyone can access it, just like the sciences, yet not everyone is going to be Einstein or Hawking, nor are they going to be the best DUSTER either. Not everyone can ride a bike, and sure as hell not everyone should be riding in the Tour de France. What ever happened to a bit of natural selection and the occasional culling of the herd?? The thing is that it is ok not to be the best in this game from the get go. And don't get me wrong or begin to troll with the fact of everything needs to be balanced and the learning curve in EVE is a flaw. Would you say the learning in life is a flaw, or just a REALITY?!? It also plays to an old adage in the military, "the only dumb question is the one not asked!!!" Get my drift here?? We are in a community of people, everyone with their own experiences and contextualizations of those experiences. If some one has a question, ask it. Get over the feeling of embarrassment and get to the meat of the issue: I want to play this game well and DON'T want to get my arse handed to me ALL of the TIME. What can I do to avoid, or mitigate this???? Not that hard. Now if someone chooses to go it alone without asking questions, SOL!!! Your choice, not mine or anyone else's. The balancing in the weapons I can see, maybe in the equipment also (except for the reduction in suit HP, that was kind BS. What the hell do I want to pay 130000 ISK for just extra CPU and PG and not get a little bit more protection???? Same goes for the vehicles. You think in anyone of the last 10 countries that have been invaded by a major world power were crying "hey, this is unfair, would you balance the equipment so I don't get romp and stomped?" Well, they probably were, but then that comes down to the 7P's of life. Prior Proper Planning Prevents ** Poor Performance. Live it, Breath it, Love IT!!!! perfect planning and.................knew youd turn up at some point how are you shag. if they ever stick in a thundersword i'll bomb for you.