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The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:27:00 -
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Allright before some 1 screams booster no i dont crash vehicles and repair them afterwards like the WARRIORS do. No i just simply repair the MCC when the shields are dropping. I get a grimsnes with 4 remote repair modules, fly up the MCC and do my mechanics work. I get every second +25 points and slow down the damage the MCC takes overall so i squeeze a bit more time out of the match if my team is loosing. And i keep playing normal till the shields of our MCC drop. If you do this you get 3 times more SP then usually. Your thoughts about this? If you think its boosting consider that i do not damage the MCC i repair it from enemy fire. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:29:00 -
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What lmfao, awesome >_< How are you fitting 4 shield reps on a grim though, they only have 2 high slots (or do reppers use low?)
On this topic of odd things you can do, does anyone know if you can hit the MCC with an Orbital Bombardment to damage it? |
Ima Leet
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:29:00 -
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very nice sir! i wouldn't mind if you were keeping my MCC rep'd. sounds like fun having 4 remote reps, good thinking to get more points out of rep'n the MCC lol
DUST Fiend wrote:On this topic of odd things you can do, does anyone know if you can hit the MCC with an Orbital Bombardment to damage it?
idk but that sounds interesting as well! would most likely only be worth saving them up and then using a few in a row on the MCC when its shields are dropped. |
Naquiri
ExcelsiCorp Securities
42
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:31:00 -
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this to me seems clever.
im not sure it ever would have occurred to me to try this.
i am of the opinion this is not an exploit. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:31:00 -
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lol, awesome! Nice thinking outside of the box.
I don't think it's boosting at all. You can repair ships in Eve, why not have the ability here as well. You are, in fact, helping your team by buying them time. |
Drako Death
22
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:37:00 -
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I can see it now no one will be on the ground it will be battle of the sky's with everyone in dropships reaping there MCC while trying to pop each others drop ships! |
Paradox-Raider
Talon Company Mercs
54
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:49:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:What lmfao, awesome >_< How are you fitting 4 shield reps on a grim though, they only have 2 high slots (or do reppers use low?)
On this topic of odd things you can do, does anyone know if you can hit the MCC with an Orbital Bombardment to damage it?
I know the OB goes through the mcc and kills ppl underneath it. No idea if it damages it though. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:50:00 -
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Not boosting, just clever and beneficial to the team. |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:52:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Allright before some 1 screams booster no i dont crash vehicles and repair them afterwards like the WARRIORS do. No i just simply repair the MCC when the shields are dropping. I get a grimsnes with 4 remote repair modules, fly up the MCC and do my mechanics work. I get every second +25 points and slow down the damage the MCC takes overall so i squeeze a bit more time out of the match if my team is loosing. And i keep playing normal till the shields of our MCC drop. If you do this you get 3 times more SP then usually. Your thoughts about this? If you think its boosting consider that i do not damage the MCC i repair it from enemy fire.
Are swarms able to reach you while you are up there? |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:57:00 -
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I want to test this but I keep getting ambush matches >_< |
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:01:00 -
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Imma do this for the lolz and SP
Once i work out what i need for it free SP for all but hang on aint you out of bounds? |
Jariel Manton
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
210
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:02:00 -
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The only way this is ok is IF you can still be shot. If your outside of the range of all weapons then its broken. No matter what your doing there has to be some way to kill you. |
Mobius One1988
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:02:00 -
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I didn't even know thatyou could interact with the mcc.
I tried several times to fire with the big stationary turrets, but i couldn't understand if i did actual damage to the mcc.
So that means that if i can repair my mcc, i can also damage the enemy's..probably not worth the same sp, but is productive for the team |
ugly nature
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
67
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:04:00 -
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I would love to see people up there, pull out my swarms and sniper rifle to see if I can kill them
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Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:06:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:The only way this is ok is IF you can still be shot. If your outside of the range of all weapons then its broken. No matter what your doing there has to be some way to kill you.
If one ship can reach there, then an enemy ship can engage in air-to-air combat. It adds a new level to the battlefield, which can be quite interesting. |
Jin Robot
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
330
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:06:00 -
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Jariel Manton wrote:The only way this is ok is IF you can still be shot. If your outside of the range of all weapons then its broken. No matter what your doing there has to be some way to kill you.
dropship guns could hit him. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:14:00 -
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Lmao, depending on the map, you can't be touched because your MCC is back behind the redzone. You can just park your ship behind the MCC and be safe all match rofl, good times, good times. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:16:00 -
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Umm....it doesn't let me target the MCC.... |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
219
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:20:00 -
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BEAST |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries
Legacy Rising
969
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Lmao, depending on the map, you can't be touched because your MCC is back behind the redzone. You can just park your ship behind the MCC and be safe all match rofl, good times, good times.
I'm wondering just how much time you are buying your team vs. what you could be doing to help cap objectives.
Of course atm there isn't much else you can do with a dropship, so I say go for it. |
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DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:26:00 -
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Yea, this didn't work at all for me. I spent the entire game trying to lock on to the MCC, it would only try for a lock on when I wasn't facing it, and once it locked on, nothing. If I turned to face the MCC, the lock was canceled. Also, I had 4 shield reps equipped, but it only showed 3 in the module wheel. Not once did a repper activate... |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:28:00 -
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hmmm... not sure if op is douchebag or genius... |
843 pano
843 Boot Camp
200
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:31:00 -
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Sound like OP posted an unproven concept. Thanks DUST Fiend for testing. |
Foldenfly
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
81
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:32:00 -
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Lol, wonder if they will have bounties in this game, like they do in EVE. If so, I could see stuff like this going bad fast. Yeah, thanks for the test, Dust Fiend. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:36:00 -
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843 pano wrote:Sound like OP posted an unproven concept. Thanks DUST Fiend for testing.
No problem, though it would be nice for others to test this too, to see if it's not just a bug on my end. |
V4DOL
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.09.18 21:42:00 -
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Mobius One1988 wrote:I didn't even know thatyou could interact with the mcc.
I tried several times to fire with the big stationary turrets, but i couldn't understand if i did actual damage to the mcc.
So that means that if i can repair my mcc, i can also damage the enemy's..probably not worth the same sp, but is productive for the team
The amount of damage you can do with the stationary turrets is minimal, doesn't even give you WP for the hits. The railgun doesn't register a hit, the missle does, but again with damage so minimal that firing for the entire match still wont net you WP. |
SYST3M 0V3RL0AD
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:10:00 -
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Awhile ago i saw a video of CCP showing Dust in the early stages at a show or convention. In the game video (actual video of a Dev playing, not a cinematic) it showed the player standing beside 4 or 5 turret installations. All of them were firing missiles at the MCC. You could see missile trails coming from other various locations on the map doing the same.
I have a suspicion that this is intended. Installations, fighter jets, etc may be able to target the MCC to speed destruction, in which case it is perfectly within reason to assume repairing the MCC would be an intended task also. This actually gives dropships another purpose and gives another reason for fighter jets to exists: to try and take down dropships repping the MCC. This is all theory, but i think it is brilliant if true. I'll do some testing on the MCC when I get a chance.
Great job OP! |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1060
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:19:00 -
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Just for those who want to try this out go to the cockpit view and try to target the blue marker of the MCC. When you activate the armor repair the whole MCC is glowing yellow like if a armor repair is on. Same goes for remote shield boosters but then its glowing blue. You can actually see it all across the map. basically the MCC is glowing like a gigantic christmas tree. And for some reason the cestus is better to target at then the charron maybe because the center of the ship is a bit smaller and not so much blocked by the hull like on the charron. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:22:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Just for those who want to try this out go to the cockpit view and try to target the blue marker of the MCC. When you activate the armor repair the whole MCC is glowing yellow like if a armor repair is on. Same goes for remote shield boosters but then its glowing blue. You can actually see it all across the map. basically the MCC is glowing like a gigantic christmas tree. And for some reason the cestus is better to target at then the charron maybe because the center of the ship is a bit smaller and not so much blocked by the hull like on the charron.
I'll try this again a bit later, I was trying to target the Charron and just couldn't. I'm curious why only 3 of my reppers were available when I had 4 equipped, odd. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.09.18 22:36:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Allright before some 1 screams booster no i dont crash vehicles and repair them afterwards like the WARRIORS do. No i just simply repair the MCC when the shields are dropping. I get a grimsnes with 4 remote repair modules, fly up the MCC and do my mechanics work. I get every second +25 points and slow down the damage the MCC takes overall so i squeeze a bit more time out of the match if my team is loosing. And i keep playing normal till the shields of our MCC drop. If you do this you get 3 times more SP then usually. Your thoughts about this? If you think its boosting consider that i do not damage the MCC i repair it from enemy fire.
I could be wrong but since the goal is for the MCC to be a player purchased and run vehicle (at least in some match types, i.e. once you get out of High Sec) I'd say this is an intentional implementation even if that doesn't show up 100% in the beta game state. After all to my understanding the MCC is going to cost more than any LAV, HAV, or Dropship on the market and be the linchpin to command & control within a district, then you should absolutely be able to repair it. In point of fact I believe you will have to repair it (either in or out of battle) because it's not going to 'magically' be replaced or repaired free of charge/without resources. So having a Merc who can and will do it for your Crop? That's going to be pretty vital.
My 0.02 ISK
Cross
ps ~ yes a portion of this is supposition derived from how these things work in EVE and what was said at FanFest, but I really don't think I'm too far off.
EDIT: Any chance this can work on Armor as well as Shields? |
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