mikegunnz
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Posted - 2012.09.17 15:58:00 -
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Played a few matches earlier today, and decided to fool around with a few different ARs. Played with the tactical a little, played with burst a little, tried one of the salvage ARs, etc.
Made me realize, a couple builds ago we had an AR imbalance. The breach variants of all the tiers of ARs, were clearly OP. They had MUCH higher damage, better accuracy, and the slower rate of fire actually was a plus for most nubs. Reality is, even for the better players, the breach ARs were the better choice. Even though the fast ROF guns like the GEK-38 and Duvolle had a faster time-to-kill, the hit detection was so bad, that most of your rounds missed. Having the breach variant, you knew that atleast when they DID hit, it would hurt.
Hardly anyone used the regular ARs, the burst, and the tactical ARs.
Fast fwd a couple builds.
The breach ARs were SEVERELY nerfed. It's evident, because you hardly see them being used anymore. This nerf came from two sides.
1. There was the 8pt damage reduction to the breach variants. (i think it was 8, cant remember for sure)
2. The fast ROF ARs like the GEK38 and Duvolle, have become more usable, mainly because the hit detection has become a little better. (like a few of us predicted)
This combo has essentially made the choice of ARs pretty easy. GEK or Duvolle. Now noone uses the breach, and STILL almost noone uses the burst. While I do ocassionally see someone use the tactical, even that is few and far between.
Perhaps, CCP... in the next build, you could revisit AR "balancing". Perhaps try and dial-in some of the ARs so they become a viable option.
My personal suggestions...
-750RPM ARs (for lack of a better term) are fine. Their high ROF, make them deadly...especially now that the hit detection is improved. (and supposedly will improve more with the next patch)
-Burst ARs, should do same damage as 750RPM ARs, while keeping their higher ROF. This should (hopefully) help more of the rounds in each burst stay on target...making this the AR of choice for the "patient, precision guy"
-Tactical AR, I think is actually fine. Damage is good, ROF is a moot point, as most ppl can't spam R1 fast enough to take advantage of any high ROF. Can't remember what it's accuracy is off the top of my head, but it SHOULD have the highest accuracy of all the ARs.
-Breach AR should perhaps get a 4pt boost to damage. Not where it was before, but in between then and now. Also, the Credron, should get it's 42 round magazine back, vs the 36 it was reduced to. Doesn't make sense to spend triple the isk over the GB9 (advanced level breach) just to get a few more dmg pts, and 1 more accuracy pt. Give it back the extra 6 rounds, to make it worth the cost.
PS. Obviously this is low on the list, among other things that need rebalancing...just something to think about. |
mikegunnz
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Posted - 2012.09.17 16:11:00 -
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Mejji Sez wrote:The new Creodon AR is the Duvolle. With its ROF and damage, its become the new goto AR for folks, me included. Though the prototype burst AR is by far, IMO, the best AR in the game. Highly underrated and underused.
TBH, now that hit detection is a little better, I don't mind the burst as much. Although I still think it's missing something. (that's why I suggested giving it a 3dmg pt boost to put it on par with the others) |
mikegunnz
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Posted - 2012.09.17 20:01:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:I'd argue that the tactical rifle needs tweaking DOWN. If you CAN spam R1 (or left click on a mouse - the reason it needs to be dropped) it's crazy. I stopped using it because it's too accurate. Can't handle it. Went back to my 750rpm ARs. I'd like to add, I preferred the Duvolle over the creodon originally anyway, but no-one uses breach AR's anymore. They're just weak.
I've never been a fan of semiauto rifles... So i cant really comment too much on it. Breach is def weak. Typically i do like using burst weapns in a lot of fps, so i'd LOVE to see the burst get a buff. |