DUST Search - [Request} Going Prone (please???)

Thomas Canalejo wrote:

onieros danneskjold wrote:

Thomas Canalejo wrote:

onieros danneskjold wrote:

This is a good idea. People hate on snipers and camping but there are simple ways to counter this. A prone sniper will be decimated by dropships, grenades, missiles. It's time consuming to go prone. Movement and field of vision is severely restricted.

Now, obviously no one wants snipers rock glitching 50-0 games, or SMG wielding protoscouts dolphin diving through battles....but these are problems to be fixed and addressed by CCP and the community when they arise, and not simply be vetoed or denounced as game-breaking ideas because they can be inconvenient to some players some of the time. The fact is, prone is an essential part of modern FPS and denying players this tactic in a game which so clearly champions realism is ridiculous.

this is not a modern FPS im not getting why ppl keep saying prone is part of every modern FPS if you want a Modern FPS go play COD

This is exactly the attitude no one wants here. I've played COD, I'd play it now if I didn't think Dust514 had the potential to be the best next-gen FPS available. That said, demonizing something as basic as going prone because you don't want to play anything resembling CoD seems a little crazy. Why not get rid of ADS then? The sniper class? Probably should do away with anything that gives anyone a competitive edge.

you dont even know what your talking about your in a drop suit how will you get up . you would not go prone in E.O.D. gear hell even in call of duty you cant go prone in E.O.D. gear then look at helmets in this game how are you going to scope in prone thats why im telling you to go back to call of duty and yes we can tell from you post your from call of duty


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J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.18 02:19:00 - [1] - Quote I don't see why not either. As long as you can't dive to prone then jump back up and keep running, why not? Heck, if anything, there should be more of a tendency to dive down, we are recklessly immortal soldiers aren't we? Heavies carrying the forge and HMG by necessity would not be able to though. I feel like people just jump on so many bandwagons so often. "COD HAZ PRON3 AND THIS ISNT COD SO NO!" "SOM GUY SAID DOLPHIN DIVIIING IS BAD FOR TEH GAEMPLAYS SO I AGREE CAUSE I WANT AN OPINION TOO" Nah... Every military in the world teaches you to use prone under enemy fire... The glitches, like anything will have to be worked out. I can agree with a slower change from prone to getting up, but it should be fairly fast going downwards. During the dive, and subsequent gettin back up, accuracy should be lowered while transitioning. Enough with the silly bandwagon opinions though folks. Prone is reasonable to ask, its not gonna KILL THE GAMEPLAY OMGZ
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.18 11:30:00 - [2] - Quote STB Vermaak Doe wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: I don't see why not either. As long as you can't dive to prone then jump back up and keep running, why not? Heck, if anything, there should be more of a tendency to dive down, we are recklessly immortal soldiers aren't we? Heavies carrying the forge and HMG by necessity would not be able to though. I feel like people just jump on so many bandwagons so often. "COD HAZ PRON3 AND THIS ISNT COD SO NO!" "SOM GUY SAID DOLPHIN DIVIIING IS BAD FOR TEH GAEMPLAYS SO I AGREE CAUSE I WANT AN OPINION TOO" Nah... Every military in the world teaches you to use prone under enemy fire... The glitches, like anything will have to be worked out. I can agree with a slower change from prone to getting up, but it should be fairly fast going downwards. During the dive, and subsequent gettin back up, accuracy should be lowered while transitioning. Enough with the silly bandwagon opinions though folks. Prone is reasonable to ask, its not gonna KILL THE GAMEPLAY OMGZ It makes the most sense for heavies to go prone since they use heavier weapons not if they are carryin that giant HMG, where are you gonna hold that ? It rests on a sling when standing, so you couldn't go prone by necessity. Other weapons sure. But prone is a good idea and won't really ruin the game. As long as it takes a few seconds to pick yourself back up, so you can't dive then bunny hop dive strafe... You can dive, but honestly what good would it do you in a heated firefight with high health.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.18 17:35:00 - [3] - Quote The more I read peoples reasons not too, the more I think people don't know what they are talking about and just regurgitate reasons they have read in other threads.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.19 22:52:00 - [4] - Quote Thomas Canalejo wrote: onieros danneskjold wrote: Thomas Canalejo wrote: onieros danneskjold wrote: This is a good idea. People hate on snipers and camping but there are simple ways to counter this. A prone sniper will be decimated by dropships, grenades, missiles. It's time consuming to go prone. Movement and field of vision is severely restricted. Now, obviously no one wants snipers rock glitching 50-0 games, or SMG wielding protoscouts dolphin diving through battles....but these are problems to be fixed and addressed by CCP and the community when they arise, and not simply be vetoed or denounced as game-breaking ideas because they can be inconvenient to some players some of the time. The fact is, prone is an essential part of modern FPS and denying players this tactic in a game which so clearly champions realism is ridiculous. this is not a modern FPS im not getting why ppl keep saying prone is part of every modern FPS if you want a Modern FPS go play COD This is exactly the attitude no one wants here. I've played COD, I'd play it now if I didn't think Dust514 had the potential to be the best next-gen FPS available. That said, demonizing something as basic as going prone because you don't want to play anything resembling CoD seems a little crazy. Why not get rid of ADS then? The sniper class? Probably should do away with anything that gives anyone a competitive edge. you dont even know what your talking about your in a drop suit how will you get up . you would not go prone in E.O.D. gear hell even in call of duty you cant go prone in E.O.D. gear then look at helmets in this game how are you going to scope in prone thats why im telling you to go back to call of duty and yes we can tell from you post your from call of duty LOL. Your reply is truly embarrasing to forum goers. You first bliethely ignored everything he said, made a ridiculous assumption that servo motor assisted powered exoskeletons are jot up to the task of getting off the ground (how does bein revived work then?), performed a massive stereotype... So on and on. Your logic is has so many cracks in it I wonder if it isn't sand. "LOL wanting prone = COD noob!" So.. Anything that is in CoD can't be allowed in DUST? Well, lets just get rid of ADS and snipers, and hipfiring. In fact, lets turn DUST into a text based adventure. No online multiplayer either. Yes. The existance of CoD means that we can never include basic FPS mechanics like making your profile as small as possible. Thank you for this revelation, Aristotle. -_____- facepalm
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.20 01:15:00 - [5] - Quote The replies to my posts literally lowered my IQ after reading them: thanks for making everyone lose some faith in humanity. In all honesty, if you had actually read my post, you wouldn't have replied with the pile of garbage you did. I was saying, since you didn't notice, that just because CoD has a feature doesn't mean DUST can't have it, OR alternatively MUST have it. Copy the good, throw away the bad. But... I must inquire, did you train yourself to invert the digestive process? Because... Well... You seem to have a problem... Hint: It involves your mouth... XD All trollingness aside, do the world a favor, and READ what your quoting, instead of turning on the sirens as soon as CoD appears and regurgitating the opinions of others... Who would like to make DUST 514 into Hipster 514...
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.20 21:39:00 - [6] - Quote Abner Kalen wrote: If everyone remembers why CoD has become such a huge game, it's because of Call of Duty II. The WWII single player game that honestly made me feel like I was literally in battle the first time I played it. I could hear the bullets whizz by my head, I'd drop and crawl under brush and barbed wire with explosions all around me, dirt and sand landing all around. THAT is the feeling that I think Dust should be after. It doesn't matter if you're in 1943 or thousands of years in the future. Also, I should add that if Dust were to implement it, I'd think getting back up should take a bit longer than dropping down, based on how nimble your dropsuit is and what they're currently carrying (large sniper rifle vs small pistol). Exactly.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.21 01:47:00 - [7] - Quote RolyatDerTeufel wrote: if there is animation for going down and getting up so it doesn't allow shots while droping then i could see it being fine, cause a hmg diving at you shouldn't be able to eat you up as it gets to a tiny hitbox. But I'm still indifferent about it. I think this would be the best way to do it, of course due to size limitations HMG's and forge guns would not fit under a heavies body, so geavies are kind of stuck there in that regard.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.09.21 17:39:00 - [8] - Quote deejea wrote: Zondervin Tau wrote: I like the idea of having prone in the game. Maybe even as a dropsuit feature. My suggestion is that while prone all hits you take a equivalent to head shots. Make it really risk vs. reward. I hope thay do put it in cant wait to dropshot quick scope How about not? No dolphin diving, but going prone is ok. I don't want dropshotting scouts to get extra damage. Prone, not dolphin diving.