...that maybe CCP needs to address and test OTHER portions of the game too? The super-tank nerf is NOT permanent AND at least now other people can test other aspects of the game and not just sit around hiding from tanks every game!

...that maybe CCP needs to address and test OTHER portions of the game too? The super-tank nerf is NOT permanent AND at least now other people can test other aspects of the game and not just sit around hiding from tanks every game!

Consider this more testing. This may or may not work to balance tanks in the long run. But we won't know unless we test it.

Just think after this update until they adjust tanks you will be fighting for your little tank lives. This is going to super hard for most tank players, but if you can consider this really, really great practice and learn a few tricks from your time playing a tank. When they adjust tanks, you will be a much better tank player.

Think of the next few weeks as Hell week for tanks, but if you can actually work harder and get better you will be a better player for it.

Always keep in mind this is a beta test. All our spell points will eventually get wiped, and the only thing you can take with you is the experience you gained.

I personally thank you guys for your massive tank investment cause it gave my forge gun a buff

Dare I say, I totally agree with an STB!?!

j/k bro - great post and attitude

TY Dane,

Look ill admit, I'm pretty anti-tank in Dust, I love killing them but hate seeing 4 tanks on the other team on an ambush map.

I am looking forward to bringing out my forge gun and getting some ISK from killing tanks. Or everyone will go back to AR and I can get my kills up more (face it all those tank players are going to be bad AR players for a few weeks lol ).

STB maybe known for a few good tank players, but the rest of us are not.

But at the same time, this was what I was saying before. When you yell for a nerf, Devs listen and then they over nerf aforementioned issue. But really instead of the nerf hammer, then needed the tweak scalpel and do minor adjustments for a better overall effect.

I think this current AV build be around at least until we move servers, so I guess 2 weeks or less of this type of build will show that CCP over nerfed tanks. Or when we get the new build the new skills, items etc. Will balance out this build adjustment and we will all be ok with a even build for both sides.

Dane look forward to playing you sometime, heard your not bad, but I want to see for myself. See you on the battlefield.
KCCO
DP

You got it! I love a good challenge - Bravo for good posting! I like to know that I'm getting to be a thorn in a few sides. Heh

Me too, any good challenge in Dust is what I am looking for.

I consider it my personal mission to prove to the Dust Community that STB has really good players, good people and we want to just have fun and play a good game with all of the rest of you. We get a bad rap from time to time, its well deserved for the most part but there many amongst us that just want to be good to this community.

Anyone who thinks this is actual balance needs to take a look at this: https://docs.google.com/a/nd.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am5BtW91ldk3dGIxcWRBVDM3NnJZQlIyVmpZbjBYNEE#gid=8

Kudos for the data - awesomeness. My point is that, no, it's not balanced...YET! CCP has been clear about this (IMHO). They are testing scenarios. They are testing variable changes. It will NOT be balanced till ALL the data is acquired, evaluated, and proper changes applied. Simple iteration, but it takes a while to get ALL the facts. You need pros, cons, including REALLY BAD cons and REALLY GOOD pros to reach leveled conclusions. Neural Nets 101. Just sayin' - good work CCP!

If they need to negate a month of testing to figure out that 4 swarms killing the top end tank isn't balanced, there is no hope for this game. Pendulum testing doesn't work when you swing between bad and worse.

Anyone who thinks this is actual balance needs to take a look at this: https://docs.google.com/a/nd.edu/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am5BtW91ldk3dGIxcWRBVDM3NnJZQlIyVmpZbjBYNEE#gid=8

If they need to negate a month of testing to figure out that 4 swarms killing the top end tank isn't balanced, there is no hope for this game. Pendulum testing doesn't work when you swing between bad and worse.

Then remove them and reimburse SP. Soft removals are just punishment for people who were doing exactly what they asked for in testing certain things by spending a hell of a lot of time grinding SP for them.