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Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 16:06:00 -
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...that maybe CCP needs to address and test OTHER portions of the game too? The super-tank nerf is NOT permanent AND at least now other people can test other aspects of the game and not just sit around hiding from tanks every game!  |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 16:13:00 -
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Daedra Lord9 wrote:Consider this more testing. This may or may not work to balance tanks in the long run. But we won't know unless we test it.
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Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 16:28:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Just think after this update until they adjust tanks you will be fighting for your little tank lives. This is going to super hard for most tank players, but if you can consider this really, really great practice and learn a few tricks from your time playing a tank. When they adjust tanks, you will be a much better tank player.
Think of the next few weeks as Hell week for tanks, but if you can actually work harder and get better you will be a better player for it.
Dare I say, I totally agree with an STB!?!
j/k bro - great post and attitude  |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 16:54:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Dane Stark wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Just think after this update until they adjust tanks you will be fighting for your little tank lives. This is going to super hard for most tank players, but if you can consider this really, really great practice and learn a few tricks from your time playing a tank. When they adjust tanks, you will be a much better tank player.
Think of the next few weeks as Hell week for tanks, but if you can actually work harder and get better you will be a better player for it. Dare I say, I totally agree with an STB!?! j/k bro - great post and attitude TY Dane, Look ill admit, I'm pretty anti-tank in Dust, I love killing them but hate seeing 4 tanks on the other team on an ambush map. I am looking forward to bringing out my forge gun and getting some ISK from killing tanks. Or everyone will go back to AR and I can get my kills up more (face it all those tank players are going to be bad AR players for a few weeks lol  ). STB maybe known for a few good tank players, but the rest of us are not. But at the same time, this was what I was saying before. When you yell for a nerf, Devs listen and then they over nerf aforementioned issue. But really instead of the nerf hammer, then needed the tweak scalpel and do minor adjustments for a better overall effect. I think this current AV build be around at least until we move servers, so I guess 2 weeks or less of this type of build will show that CCP over nerfed tanks. Or when we get the new build the new skills, items etc. Will balance out this build adjustment and we will all be ok with a even build for both sides. Dane look forward to playing you sometime, heard your not bad, but I want to see for myself. See you on the battlefield. KCCO DP
You got it! I love a good challenge - Bravo for good posting! I like to know that I'm getting to be a thorn in a few sides. Heh |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 18:37:00 -
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Kudos for the data - awesomeness. My point is that, no, it's not balanced...YET! CCP has been clear about this (IMHO). They are testing scenarios. They are testing variable changes. It will NOT be balanced till ALL the data is acquired, evaluated, and proper changes applied. Simple iteration, but it takes a while to get ALL the facts. You need pros, cons, including REALLY BAD cons and REALLY GOOD pros to reach leveled conclusions. Neural Nets 101. Just sayin' - good work CCP! |
Dane Stark
Golgotha Group
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Posted - 2012.09.14 18:47:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Dane Stark wrote:Kudos for the data - awesomeness. My point is that, no, it's not balanced...YET! CCP has been clear about this (IMHO). They are testing scenarios. They are testing variable changes. It will NOT be balanced till ALL the data is acquired, evaluated, and proper changes applied. Simple iteration, but it takes a while to get ALL the facts. You need pros, cons, including REALLY BAD cons and REALLY GOOD pros to reach leveled conclusions. Neural Nets 101. Just sayin' - good work CCP! If they need to negate a month of testing to figure out that 4 swarms killing the top end tank isn't balanced, there is no hope for this game. Pendulum testing doesn't work when you swing between bad and worse.
Bad and worse - sure, but I recall one game several builds back when I toasted tanks with one AV 'nade. Sure, I thought I was awesome (I'm not; I'm just a competitor) but then tanks went thru the roof. Now they are back down for now. It's not pendulum between bad and worse IMO. It's pendulum from power and not power -- which is how you find the middle ground. Any coder out there that is familiar with git will acknowledge this as the best way to hunt down bugs. Bisecting. It's a good tactic to problem solving like this. Eh -- just my thoughts. Take em or leave em.  |
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