DUST Search - AV vs Dropships - Was too powerful, now will be worse

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

Darky SI wrote:

Needless Sacermendor wrote:

You can't compare a half mil dropship with a 12k weapon !!! Do you think that weapon floats round on a cloud and shoots at you ?

i meant performance/balance not isk, because you can't balance AV weapons without taking into accounts that DS are not in the same par with tanks, if you buff them too much they might be balanced with tanks but will slaughter DS and if you nerf them to balance with DS they will be useless against tanks

Damn I lost my reply ... basically said you should have left the isk out of the equation cos it sounded like you were saying he's only spending 12k to kill my 500k
Then went on to say the rest is all valid ... I've been saying the same in other threads before I read this one.
You have to agree the HAV wasn't working as intended to they've addressed it ... I'm sure they know it will knock on to the other vehicles and I'm sure they're aware the dropship doesn't get used and the LAV pretty much only sees the starter or free fittings. So as someone said, next on the list will be dropships and LAVs. Chaff and target disruption when you have a working cockpit lock on warning will go a long way and other ideas too, but they don't like to just dump extra hp on things, though they will if it comes to it.


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Lazarus Solo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2012.09.14 15:28:00 - [1] - Quote Alright, so people have been complaining about AV being too weak. I'd like to point out that forges and swarms are not only cheap, but very effective considering what you spend. Too effective, and the new hot "fix" is going to make that worse. People complain because they struggle to take out tanks, so fine, nerf them, like you have. People don't discuss AV vs drop ships. AV is too powerful against them. A forge gun costing 12K can dish out significant damage to one, and with the forge guns now dealing more damage along with swarms, and having longer range, AV is going to be a nightmare for us pilots spending in excess of half a million on a drop ship. You have no idea of the challenge to keep one of these things airborne with everyone using prototype swarms and forges and now it's going to be ridiculously hard.
Lazarus Solo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2012.09.14 16:22:00 - [2] - Quote I can confirm Dropships are now ludicrously underpowered. 15% for the highest shield resistance amplifiers? Seriously? Dropships are sitting ducks now, the amount of damage AV and installations now deal is beyond a joke. No more drop ships for me. I am a very good pilot, but there is absolutely nothing I can do against this. I am guaranteed to lose my drop ship if I call it in.
Lazarus Solo KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2012.09.14 16:50:00 - [3] - Quote Needless Sacermendor wrote: Darky SI wrote: Needless Sacermendor wrote: You can't compare a half mil dropship with a 12k weapon !!! Do you think that weapon floats round on a cloud and shoots at you ? i meant performance/balance not isk, because you can't balance AV weapons without taking into accounts that DS are not in the same par with tanks, if you buff them too much they might be balanced with tanks but will slaughter DS and if you nerf them to balance with DS they will be useless against tanks Damn I lost my reply ... basically said you should have left the isk out of the equation cos it sounded like you were saying he's only spending 12k to kill my 500k Then went on to say the rest is all valid ... I've been saying the same in other threads before I read this one. You have to agree the HAV wasn't working as intended to they've addressed it ... I'm sure they know it will knock on to the other vehicles and I'm sure they're aware the dropship doesn't get used and the LAV pretty much only sees the starter or free fittings. So as someone said, next on the list will be dropships and LAVs. Chaff and target disruption when you have a working cockpit lock on warning will go a long way and other ideas too, but they don't like to just dump extra hp on things, though they will if it comes to it. They need to take the damage back from AV and give us flares. Whilst they are at it, they could also give us points for using the mobile CRU and picking up/dropping off passengers.