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Drones would be simple thing that fit in your equipment slot along with nanohives and injectors, they would be pretty simple doing bare bone basic task and float around you as a small ball of floating metal. They would be interesting element to gameplay and can be used for when you don't want to send in yourself. Drones could be small targets with low health making them useful so long as the other team has bad aim.

Medic drones would stay near the owner unless order to somewhere else and would revive any player in their vicinity with a short animation and would have you as the priority revivify.

Spy drones would float straight up above you and increase you TACNET sensor radius. Making them very useful but would tend to stay in one spot so a sniper could easily take them out.

Hacking drones would take longer to hack an objective but would give you a bit more freedom, hack drones would be the only one I say who could come back "in" to the suits/

Combat drone, would have a very weak low RoF weapon and would simple shoot at what ever your shooting at, they themselves would also be weak against attack.

Gank Drones, would float into a group of enemy's and explode they would be have low health but would travel in random zigzag spiral patterns so if a player good with a gun he could cause a gank to gank prematurely

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Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.11 03:32:00 - [1] - Quote Some ideas Ive seen around that I like and believe should get more noticed. bold is a important detail underline is a skill italics is what i just added Deployable = a nanohive like object that is deployed Drops = small deploables arc = left to right ness 1. Movement mechanics and system GÇóWorking off of this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19796&find=unread I expanded it to this https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35213&find=unread 2. futuristic or EVEish weapons GÇó flamethrower like lightning gun with a long but narrow arc. GÇó plasmathrower, short but wider arc 3 Anti-tank/vehicle equipment GÇó Tire spike like deployable does damage to what ever on top of it. GÇó Statis webifer deployable that puts out a constant AoE slow. GÇó Deployable barricade to set up on roads and such to limit tank movement. GÇó AP mines 4. Deployable equipment GÇó Shield wall that works like a barrier you can shoot over(think insta sandbag wall) 5. tools and weapons GÇó module that makes tanks show up on tacnet more than now and allows for 25% quicker lockon GÇó module that lowers your tacnet signature GÇó module that increases your sensor range GÇó module that shows the radius of all grenades via TACNET GÇó AP mines, bouncing betty and claymore like GÇó Melee weapons, could fill grenade slot (not OHK) >longer arc, narrower arc >shorter arc, wider arc >narrower arc, more damage >shorter arc, more damage GÇó laser designator, would allow more precision on the field with strikes(would allow player to spec into this) GÇó Crossbow like side arm that is good at the lower end of medium range GÇó a Proper missile turret for vehicles that lockons to targets and fires 8. Vehicles we would like to see GÇó APC, armored like a tank, 1 small turret GÇó MTAC, smaller/ more mobile than tank, larger than LAV GÇó Gunship, for air to ground attack GÇó Fighter(keep its speed reasonable for map size) for Air to Air GÇó Light recon vehicle, a bike of some sort 9. Vehicle able to drop large deployables GÇó Mounted heavy cannon+blast shield GÇó Mounted heavy machine gun+ blast shield GÇó Automatic SAM launcher for near by air targets. GÇó Ariel AoE deployable that pulls airborne targets out of the sky if they get near its short AoE. 10. Ability granting devices could fill grenade slot for easy to activate and trade off. GÇó Cloaking, I prefer it be based of mass and movement. GÇó limited teleporting, and portals, this would be neat and unique... For a combat FPS. GÇó Riot shield like device would be useful GÇó Grappling hook and rope like device 10.5 Automatic ability granting module GÇó Hang glider, step off a ledge and glide (just fly with it, lol punny) 11. variation GÇó Hmg > suppressive fire hmg 12. E war GÇó AoE jammer (messes with minimap and tacnet) GÇó Individual Jammer (point at some one and keep it on them to jam their stuff) GÇó grenade design to overload the HuD/tacnet 13. addition GÇó weapon customization, please GÇó Improve Tacnet visual support less floaty symbols and more ingame light effects modules. GÇó allow two nearby players to increase their overall tacnet effectivness(guy has 1 tacnet range other guy has 1 nomrally standing next to each other they have 1 now they have 1.5 range) GÇó skill for better quickdraw(lower the current draw speed by 5% or 10% so a maxed skill doesnt give too much of an advantage) GÇó skill for Quick scope (lower current speed, and dont make maxed out to fast reasonable) GÇó skill for walking while ADS (once agian so maxed out is OP lower the current value) 14. Drones GÇó Medic drone, would stick nanite injectors into any near by fallen comrades, with you as priority GÇó spy drone, would fly hi into the air and give a team more tacnet data GÇó hack drone, would hack objectives and could return to a suit GÇó attack drone, would fly around and shoot 20dmg slow simi automatic GÇó gank drone, would fly up to a target and explode(named for the eve players who suicide gank) GÇó drone strikes GÇó drone airbases 14. Installations GÇó A large AoE shield that protects against air vehicles GÇó a portal generator between creating a link between two places 15. Grenades GÇó allow tacnet to show the radius of your* grenades with a ciricle outline its effective radius(make it thick enough to see)* GÇó better throw mechanic GÇó Nade guick draw skill for faster throwing GÇó Statis webifer grenades GÇó Flash bangs GÇó EMP grenade( would stop shield regen, and screw with electronics) GÇó Smoke grenades GÇó different grenade fuses with more varition in spread > proximity based > on impact GÇó diffrent grenade types other than frag >thermal >radition >Sonic >noxium(hehe antimatter nades) . changes GÇó Bump smg stats and make light weapon, create machine pistol weapon GÇó Increase the explosive damage resistance of dropships and slightly increase the HP its a transport, should be able to take a hit GÇó Slow dropships down to better show their amored transport role GÇó Increase HP given by armor plates GÇó call vehicle missile launchers rocket launchers GÇó increase damage of HMG GÇó give vehicles Limited Ammo GÇó make LAV take damage from running people over GÇó guns should have more kick and SFX GÇó Reduce swarms damage to slightly above prepatch levels GÇó make crouch lower your center of mass more so
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.11 14:21:00 - [2] - Quote res
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.12 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote Ariel AoE drop that pulls airborne targets out of the sky if they get near its short AoE. I going to explain this idea a bit better. This would be a large drop that a LAV would put down once up the airspace above the device would have a webifer bubble in it, now since webifer slow things down and since flight requires enough motion to get off the ground I put the two together to for a device that would drop/pull vehicles out of the air. Something like this would have a small radius and would be used to mainly stop gunship(air to ground assault vehicle) from having complete superiority. I figured this would be a cool EVE like Arial denial device for a space age game.
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.12 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote DRONES Drones would be simple thing that fit in your equipment slot along with nanohives and injectors, they would be pretty simple doing bare bone basic task and float around you as a small ball of floating metal. They would be interesting element to gameplay and can be used for when you don't want to send in yourself. Drones could be small targets with low health making them useful so long as the other team has bad aim. Medic drones would stay near the owner unless order to somewhere else and would revive any player in their vicinity with a short animation and would have you as the priority revivify. Spy drones would float straight up above you and increase you TACNET sensor radius. Making them very useful but would tend to stay in one spot so a sniper could easily take them out. Hacking drones would take longer to hack an objective but would give you a bit more freedom, hack drones would be the only one I say who could come back "in" to the suits/ Combat drone, would have a very weak low RoF weapon and would simple shoot at what ever your shooting at, they themselves would also be weak against attack. Gank Drones, would float into a group of enemy's and explode they would be have low health but would travel in random zigzag spiral patterns so if a player good with a gun he could cause a gank to gank prematurely
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.09.12 21:29:00 - [5] - Quote I don't hate these ideas, in fact I like a bunch of them: I'm glad someone besides me wants lightning guns and plasmathrowers. Based on the knife being removed and readded as a sidearm next patch, melee weapons will be sidearms. I think that the upcoming Scrambler Rifles might be lightning guns. MTACS are already confirmed to be coming. Some kind of vehicle webbing is coming also based on what was said at EVE Fanfest 2012. Webifier grenades would be really freaken awesome. Would be awesome also to have a Mass Driver with webifier rounds in, and also EMP (shield damaging HUD disabling) rounds in. I don't think gunships should be added, they would be flying tanks. Just fighters that can be customised to be air-to-air or air-to-ground. I don't think an APC is needed, dropships are already a good troop transport vehicle. The energy shield and riot shield should just be one thing, and a primary weapon. Here is how I want it to work. I like the idea of cool powers, like teleportation... but that would require wormholes. I suppose there could be a device like a drop uplink (which work like wormholes), but you would need to have another planted somewhere that connects to the one on your suit, and you could only teleport to that one point. I would support that as long as it takes like 10 seconds to teleport, this would prevent people from abusing it as a way of escaping gun battles. It would just be easier to have a 2 installations that the Commander deploys that act as wormholes entrances and exits. I like cloaking, and I'm fairly certain its coming. This is how I want cloaking to work. Grappling hooks I use to find stupid, but I suppose it depends on how its implemented. I don't see the point of having vehicles deploy things when you could just have the deployables as installations. I support drones.
ugg reset ZionTCD Legacy Rising 234	Posted - 2012.09.12 21:40:00 - [6] - Quote limited vehicle amo? why?
Ops Fox ZionTCD Legacy Rising 197	Posted - 2012.09.13 13:14:00 - [7] - Quote Because it gives tanksa a massive advantage to not have to be worry about ever running out of ammo, for example missiles are great weapons capable of bring payloads at any range, their drawback? One missile takes up a lot of space. Why nerf damage and splash when they can be balanced with a realistic drawback and limit? All of this depends on wethet or not ccp can bring it in correctly. I would like LAVs having a role of supporting defense by bring drops that are two big for logi to carry around it make people consider LAVs for something else.
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.13 13:43:00 - [8] - Quote Oops, didn't mean to post with his character. Split the difference for the merc pack so we split the account didn't realise he'd been on.
alex legione Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.13 14:36:00 - [9] - Quote Avenger 245 wrote: Drones would be simple thing that fit in your equipment slot along with nanohives and injectors, they would be pretty simple doing bare bone basic task and float around you as a small ball of floating metal. They would be interesting element to gameplay and can be used for when you don't want to send in yourself. Drones could be small targets with low health making them useful so long as the other team has bad aim. Medic drones would stay near the owner unless order to somewhere else and would revive any player in their vicinity with a short animation and would have you as the priority revivify. Spy drones would float straight up above you and increase you TACNET sensor radius. Making them very useful but would tend to stay in one spot so a sniper could easily take them out. Hacking drones would take longer to hack an objective but would give you a bit more freedom, hack drones would be the only one I say who could come back "in" to the suits/ Combat drone, would have a very weak low RoF weapon and would simple shoot at what ever your shooting at, they themselves would also be weak against attack. Gank Drones, would float into a group of enemy's and explode they would be have low health but would travel in random zigzag spiral patterns so if a player good with a gun he could cause a gank to gank prematurely it's a nice idea! quote all.
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.13 14:38:00 - [10] - Quote DRONE STRIKES drone strikes would be the EVE version of air strikes naplam and other stuff kill streaks handle in CoD, but hey would be based on a valid mechanic, wether or not Drones forces are avalible. wetehr or not these drones are avalible is if EVE player in space gives us access to his drones or if there is a drone base on the planet that we control. a drone strike would be called in to do a heavy bombing run, or it could do a precision strike, or it could just drop some effect. this would give another element to warfare. along with this i think orbital bombardment should do alot more destruction. a laser designator could become a side arm used to guide in a strikes and would be allow people to spec in calling those in, this would work best if a grid system was implemented and normal mercs not equiped with the designator could only call in general bombard to a grid coord, where as the laser could pick any spot it wanted

alex legione Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.09.13 14:48:00 - [11] - Quote Avenger 245 wrote: drone strikes would be the EVE version of air strikes naplam and other stuff kill streaks handle in CoD, but hey would be based on a valid mechanic, wether or not Drones forces are avalible. wetehr or not these drones are avalible is if EVE player in space gives us access to his drones or if there is a drone base on the planet that we control. a drone strike would be called in to do a heavy bombing run, or it could do a precision strike, or it could just drop some effect. this would give another element to warfare. along with this i think orbital bombardment should do alot more destruction. a laser designator could become a side arm used to guide in a strikes and would be allow people to spec in calling those in, this would work best if a grid system was implemented and normal mercs not equiped with the designator could only call in general bombard to a grid coord, where as the laser could pick any spot it wanted when we play with CCM, the gameplay is more similar of battlefield 2142, there was in that game the titan, CCM instead. But in that game there was some turret chaingun. i think DUST's Drone like that. Alien's (by ridley scott) Sentrygun. And we can modify that like we want, or like an another armor (with missile, boost, rifle long range, medical center, and so on...)
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.15 16:14:00 - [12] - Quote REASONING Now I prefer games especially games that allow customization tog Ive players horde of option when they are fitting, not just increasing damage or EHP but things that open ways for new tactics to form and that why I suggest some of this stuff. I believe dust can become a great Sci-fi war-game opening up endless combinations and strategy to its player, but more non weapon related and no EHP related tools should be provided not to mention more in-depth systems. A major part of warfare is the support element of it and I think dust should portray that accurately. Please keep in mind when I suggest a crossbow or grappling hook like device that what I think they should effectively operate like not musically add a crossbow to the game. For example have a magnetic link that allows you to throw a link onto a ledge and it stick to it then you could trigger it and be pulled via magnetism and other scifi elements up towards. Or when I suggested a crossbow a hi energy railgun that fired a bolt of pre charged plasma could fill this.
RedBleach 50	Posted - 2012.09.16 07:46:00 - [13] - Quote You have alot of ideas, very good. I can see it took some time to write them and organize your thoughts. However a blanket article may not be the best way for people to side with your post and get it noticed. Because if one person is going to reply in favor of one issue or disagree with multiple issues they must take your list and go through it one by one stating their opinion. This would take alot of time, and it's not something people tend to want to do. Suggestion: Take each of your ideas one by one and see if there are already threads voicing your same opinion. If so join them an post a reply, if not disagree and post a reply. (alot of what you are suggesting is on the boards) If a thread does not exist, post a new one: idea by idea. Then it is quick and easy for people to find and reply to and easier to catalog. I SUPPORT #10 and #4
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.16 14:55:00 - [14] - Quote i put them all in one place so they would be easy to connect together things that would affect each other, also im tired of my threads getting buried so one place one topic. some of it already has a topic just no one post on em this way all the ideas get a bit of exposure.
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.16 15:57:00 - [15] - Quote GRENADES well i beleive nades need a rework and some attention ecause of their increase usage during battle, nades are pretty useful now and people are hurling them all over the place so they need to be looked at agian. primarly their throw mechenic and "bounce" need some work. and some mroe varity wouldnt hurt
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.09.17 23:19:00 - [16] - Quote CONTROLLING THE BATTLE FIELD Expanding on the idea of drops and how they already alter the flow of maps, what if we players had far more choices at are finger tips? Team coordination would allow different kinds of drops that accomplish different things to work towards a common goal. Vehicles even after the nerf are still hell on wheels, there is nothing in dust yet capable of bringing that much fire power to bare but they are big and bulky and limited to roads more or less. Why not have drops that capitalize on this? GÇóThe first big thing are the barricades, would be a simple drop that takes up enough CPU/pg its not just a after thought, once it comes up it would create a small nanohive sized bubble(maybe a bit bigger) where it pushes vehicles away. One of these would denied tanks access to a narrow roads dropping two spaced out right would stop tanks from driving down a main road. GÇóTire spikes, unlike the barricades these would be lower CPU/pg requirements and would have a player roll out a long drop that would do damage to what ever was on top of it, not much damage just enough to give that extra edge in a AV operation. GÇóAoE webifers would work like their little bros the webifer grenades except rather than putting a few seconds of slow they create constant slow effect within a area, hence AoE. There have to be some fancy mechanics to deal with larger things that wont have all their mass on one point but these would be helpful and allow for some new strategies. GÇó Mines AP and AV, I think by having these fill the grenade slot would balance out their perceived "unfairness" with loss of potential in other areas. These would allow players to "cover" a locations abievently by a very unintuitive method. This and other stuff wouldn't just have AV applications. AP, AA, area denial and preventive measure are available as well. GÇó Shield walls, would allow player to drop wall to provide cover for a location. When I think of these I think of a slightly curved pentagon shaped shield, that way a player can stand up at it center and be complete covered from the other side, while a player can stand at the edges and have the clearance to fire back, or crouch and be covered. GÇó I mention allow LAV to make drops which would pretty much be drops you wouldn't expect a soldier to trug along with. Such as a mountable turrets(no auto mode) that can effective allow player to set up vehicle sized small turrets were ever they want(or fit a lav) or create some powerful and useful things that a player size drop would be to "small" to do. It stands to reason that what ever a invention intended use, it will be perverted. Take for example the barricade, it pushes tanks away from it area of effect(a small bubble) what if your were to propel this same pushing force down range via remote explosives? Im well aware I lost you but bare with me I like this idea. Would be a tool for indoor combat, a player could set up the drop on one end of a hall wall and when the enemy's come to down the hall wall in mass, blast them right out of hallway via force push on command. I like that analogy think of it as a device which force pushes anything down its range. A useful tool for halting a breach Quote: But in the end all of this leads to the same thing by creating a wide variety of equipment that impacts the battlefield. You create the routes for people and corps to create strategies for using this stuff and countering it. Which in the end as two sides jocky to use the advantages givin and counter them it would create a far more fun and engaging gaming experience.


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