vehicle controls ill agree.
However if you tap R2 it cycles your weapons and accessories
Upgrading can be confusing but read the specs on each upgrade and you start to get it, it makes it tailored to exactly how you want to play i love it
And it is still a beta give it a break
if you need help with skill points and stuff hit me up ill help you as much as i know
PSN: JaySin011584
Dust Name: Jaysin 011584

vehicle controls ill agree.
However if you tap R2 it cycles your weapons and accessories
Upgrading can be confusing but read the specs on each upgrade and you start to get it, it makes it tailored to exactly how you want to play i love it
And it is still a beta give it a break
if you need help with skill points and stuff hit me up ill help you as much as i know
PSN: JaySin011584
Dust Name: Jaysin 011584

Thanks for the help.

One quick question, I am looking to try to get myself one of those tanks that I see people drive around and get a 20-0 KDR with, but one thing that has me confused is that for the ~1,600 ISK (or whatever its called) I only get one tank? So each time it is destroyed I have to buy another one?

If true, that is absolutely awful. I am the type of person who when spends money on something, either in real life or a game, I want it to last as long as humanly possible so I can get my monies worth. I will be extremely reluctant to spend most of my money in the game for something that isn't infinitely replaceable, especially when it can probably be lost due to a server glitch or game freeze. Not to mention that if I get taken out in the tank before I can get any use out of it, that will be a massive offense to me because it means I am out all that money. It's bad enough that I get a death by somebody who has some kind of insta-kill Gatling gun and armor like a tank, let alone a loss of something extremely expensive that I paid for. It's a double-whammy add insult to injury, and that aspect of this game I do not enjoy at all.

ur on,ly seeing like 5% of the whole game, were testing several stuff, like.. now there's only 3 types of vechicles, tanks, LAVS and dropships, on the release there will be over 20 types of vechicles........


People keep posting arround comparing to fully developed games and whatever.

We are testeing set-ups, what needs to be upgraded, what needs to be downgraded, what needs improvement.



IMO, some people should just be banned from these forums since they contributing 3x 0 to its development.

Nobody is forcing you to play this game, if it frustrates you, go play another game and stop filling up these forums with tons of crap and and BS PERIOD.

if you have no interest in assisting in this game's development, then quit the game totaly and wait for its release, just some news for you crybabies,

Very soonish all skillpoints will be reset like it was before you even got 1 kill.

Great huh, you can start all over again.

ANJOY!!

Regards, Amazigh

Right now you hold R2 and use the right stick to select a weapon, sadly this is contrary to every other game on the PS3 that has weapon wheel selections. it should be this: Bring up weapon wheel, use LEFT stick to highlight weapon, release the weapon wheel button, and get selected weapon.

the losing you investment is part of the expierence it forces you to play more conservativly. or only use your really good stuff for high paying contracts. since we dont have player contracts right now we dont get lots of isk. once its fully released and eve players are paying us a lot more isk we can use more advanced gear regularly. if you play with a squad of players with mics and are coordinated with them you have a betetr chance of living longer and if you dont die you dont lose ur tank or fit. its suppose to be brutal thats similar to how eve online plays.

Thanks for the help.

One quick question, I am looking to try to get myself one of those tanks that I see people drive around and get a 20-0 KDR with, but one thing that has me confused is that for the ~1,600 ISK (or whatever its called) I only get one tank? So each time it is destroyed I have to buy another one?

If true, that is absolutely awful. I am the type of person who when spends money on something, either in real life or a game, I want it to last as long as humanly possible so I can get my monies worth. I will be extremely reluctant to spend most of my money in the game for something that isn't infinitely replaceable, especially when it can probably be lost due to a server glitch or game freeze. Not to mention that if I get taken out in the tank before I can get any use out of it, that will be a massive offense to me because it means I am out all that money. It's bad enough that I get a death by somebody who has some kind of insta-kill Gatling gun and armor like a tank, let alone a loss of something extremely expensive that I paid for. It's a double-whammy add insult to injury, and that aspect of this game I do not enjoy at all.

Thanks for the help.

One quick question, I am looking to try to get myself one of those tanks that I see people drive around and get a 20-0 KDR with, but one thing that has me confused is that for the ~1,600 ISK (or whatever its called) I only get one tank? So each time it is destroyed I have to buy another one?

If true, that is absolutely awful. I am the type of person who when spends money on something, either in real life or a game, I want it to last as long as humanly possible so I can get my monies worth. I will be extremely reluctant to spend most of my money in the game for something that isn't infinitely replaceable, especially when it can probably be lost due to a server glitch or game freeze. Not to mention that if I get taken out in the tank before I can get any use out of it, that will be a massive offense to me because it means I am out all that money. It's bad enough that I get a death by somebody who has some kind of insta-kill Gatling gun and armor like a tank, let alone a loss of something extremely expensive that I paid for. It's a double-whammy add insult to injury, and that aspect of this game I do not enjoy at all.

7. Economics... infantry equipment is too expensive - you can not cover the expenses with mission rewards.

Most of the time you earn back your suit per game. Once you hit the advance/ proto tier, then no. Paying 30k isk for a suit is far cheaper. My suit already cost almost 150k per suit. Plus, in term of EVE economy, making infantry equipment cheaper means a near infinite supply of suits.

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It seems, Dust 514 don't have other ways to earn money, besides PvP (or aurum buying)

Yet. PvE content has been confirmed for later builds, however.

Ok, so I just started playing the beta last night. So far I cannot see this becoming successful, not because of the bugs or glitches (those will be worked out, hopefully) but because of the gameplay, controls and utterly confusing element regarding skills, upgrades etc etc.

My biggest issue right now is the controls. Pretty much everything about the controls feels wrong, I don't even know where to start.

First off I will point out the weapon selection wheel. 1.Right now you hold R2 and use the right stick to select a weapon, sadly this is contrary to every other game on the PS3 that has weapon wheel selections. it should be this: Bring up weapon wheel, use LEFT stick to highlight weapon, release the weapon wheel button, and get selected weapon. Also note that currently you have to HOLD the right stick in the direction of the weapon upon releasing the weapon wheel button to select that weapon, this is NOT GOOD. Having to hold the stick in that direction is horribly inconvenient. It should be move-and-drop, meaning I simply move the stick in the direction of the weapon I want, release the stick (thus selecting the weapon), and release the weapon wheel button to select it. This is instinctual, natural and what most players are used to. The fact I have to hold the right stick on the weapon, then release the weapon wheel button while still holding the right stick in that direction, is absolutely awful and awkward.

2.Secondly are the vehicle controls. What were you guys thinking? Practically every other vehicle based game on the PS3 has R2 as acceleration, L2 as brake/reverse, and left stick for steering. You guys have the acceleration, brake, reverse AND steering assigned to the left analog stick?! This needs to be changed to something more natural with what 99.9% of the PS3 gamers are used to. R2 for acceleration, L2 for brake and reverse, and left analog stick for steering. I'm not even going to get into position changing, one fix at a time. However I suggest CCP play some Warhawk to know how vehicles are supposed to be controlled/operated on the PS3.

3.Thirdly is the control aspect of the game (aiming, moving etc). All I can say is that the aiming/movement is horrendous in so many ways. It is not smooth at all, and is an unnatural struggle to aim and move around. I suggest you guys contact Activision and ask for the source code of the COD controls. Those games may be copy-and-paste redundancies, but one thing they have down PERFECTLY is the feel, movement, and aiming. Dust 514 is very linear in the aiming/control department, and it feels wrong and unnatural. My character doesn't aim where my brain is telling it to aim to, which is a problem. On games with fluid and responsive controls, this is not an issue.

4.Fourthly is the overall confusing-as-heck upgrade system. I have no idea what the frik is going on, probably would take me several months of experimenting to figure out how the system is setup. As it stands now, whoever has even a remote clue at how to properly do upgrades in this game, will have a HUGE advantage (already present with those who have those dang invulnerable tanks). I suggest that new players are introduced to things slowly, so they can learn how to properly use and purchase items at peak efficiency to their play-style. Giving the player access to everything right at the start is monumentally confusing, things need to be introduced slowly so the player can get a better feel for how to upgrade and what these skills and upgrades do. Perhaps some kind of ranking system could apply, at each rank you get introduced to new items and possibilities. But it is done relatively slowly/incrementally so the player knows what they need to do to play at their best without being utterly overwhelmed by all the options.


I have a lot of other issues with this game, especially TDM matches... but I'll leave that rant for another post.