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DENILE ICOGNITO
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:18:00 -
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kinda doesnt seem fair to not be able to control at least 1 system or planet from the dust point of veiw maybe one that hasnt been inhabited yet? I could be wrong but u guys are teaching me the eve/dust coorelation.. dust needs a planet or system for itself to partake in the colonization of eden dont u agree/ disagree tell me why or correct my thinking pattern... expound pls!! or are we just dust puppets for eve!! Even phinocchio wanted to be a live sovergein soul !!! |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.06 23:39:00 -
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EvE corps can have sovereignty(ownership) of systems, DUST 514 corps will be able to have sovereignty over planets. EvE players can join DUST 514 corps and DUST 514 players can join EvE corps.
Facility DUST players build on planet surface will provide income and reason to fight other DUST corps independent of EvE sov wars. Having the EvE owners of space around planet will make it easier to sell goods from DUST districts.
The space elevator will require both EvE and DUST side to build. This will make it easier for EvE players to get their planetary interaction(pi) goods off planet. Both the EvE and DUST side owners of space elevator will be able to charge customs fees, I assume.
The facilities and elevators in hisec will be npc owned, lowsec to maybe. The Nullsec will be all player run, outside of npc pirate space at least. |
kellogs27
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:07:00 -
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Ten-Sidhe wrote:EvE corps can have sovereignty(ownership) of systems, DUST 514 corps will be able to have sovereignty over planets. EvE players can join DUST 514 corps and DUST 514 players can join EvE corps.
Facility DUST players build on planet surface will provide income and reason to fight other DUST corps independent of EvE sov wars. Having the EvE owners of space around planet will make it easier to sell goods from DUST districts.
The space elevator will require both EvE and DUST side to build. This will make it easier for EvE players to get their planetary interaction(pi) goods off planet. Both the EvE and DUST side owners of space elevator will be able to charge customs fees, I assume.
The facilities and elevators in hisec will be npc owned, lowsec to maybe. The Nullsec will be all player run, outside of npc pirate space at least.
Yeah.........I never got what they meant when they say that......I mean easier how? Easier then clicking and dragging? I mean as it is it's not very hard. There must be other benefits then making it "easier" as it couldn't possibly be any easier. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:24:00 -
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I don't understand how Dust players can't control a system, but can control a planet. A solar system is a series of planets orbiting the same parent star, if you control all the planets, then doesn't that mean you control the system? Guessing by control of the system you mean the space around the planet like you mentioned, but controlling just empty space doesn't seem that valuable (unless you're harvesting the spontaneous quantum junk inherent in empty space). Does control of a region of space give you control of who's allowed in? and how is this used profitably by EVE players? |
Grief PK
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:31:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I don't understand how Dust players can't control a system, but can control a planet. A solar system is a series of planets orbiting the same parent star, if you control all the planets, then doesn't that mean you control the system? Guessing by control of the system you mean the space around the planet like you mentioned, but controlling just empty space doesn't seem that valuable (unless you're harvesting the spontaneous quantum junk inherent in empty space). Does control of a region of space give you control of who's allowed in? and how is this used profitably by EVE players?
In eve the space it's self is valuable. Its like 'air superiority' there is a city below but you want to make sure you own the traffic in the air. Right now eve is just traffic in the air and there is only one means of turning planets into isk .. PI (planetary interactions) but this is one of hundreds of ways to make isk in Eve. So the other 99 ways still have value. |
Grief PK
An Eye For An Eye
AN EYE F0R AN EYE
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:35:00 -
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I'll expand on that a little more. Control of space decided who can build and utilize the resources (planets only being one). It also creates a defendable area where other ppl can try and fly through but you kill them. So it controls the trafic. Each 'region' in Eve has different resources in the moons, npc missions (think quests), rare spawns, ratting (think grind for isk) etc. Having sovereignty over an area gives you access to utilize all these isk making tools. If some one comes in and breaks your sovereignty they now have access to them. |
Grenwal Hiesenberg
Shadow Company HQ
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Posted - 2012.09.07 02:42:00 -
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So as the owner of a dust corp. with eve players in your corp, you could conceivably control the space around your planet AND use the eve ships to expand further into your nearby space, possibly gaining control of the system entirely? That would be neat! 
Great post and answers, this was very valuable information to me. +1 |
PHAROAH AMEN RA
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.07 03:55:00 -
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Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:So as the owner of a dust corp. with eve players in your corp, you could conceivably control the space around your planet AND use the eve ships to expand further into your nearby space, possibly gaining control of the system entirely? That would be neat! Great post and answers, this was very valuable information to me. +1
So This means that each game (corp) has to share control over a planet ? who gets the mosT $$$ from this planet who makes dust wepons , who do we actually buy them from? i guess im asking are dust players goin to be totally dependent on eve and its corps. How will dust players make isk. will it be from fighting alone?
Ive got alot of questions? ill ask one set at a time. This is the first set !!! lol |
Primus Core
Brimstone Tactical
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2012.09.07 08:32:00 -
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PHAROAH AMEN RA wrote:Grenwal Hiesenberg wrote:So as the owner of a dust corp. with eve players in your corp, you could conceivably control the space around your planet AND use the eve ships to expand further into your nearby space, possibly gaining control of the system entirely? That would be neat! Great post and answers, this was very valuable information to me. +1 So This means that each game (corp) has to share control over a planet ? who gets the mosT $$$ from this planet who makes dust wepons , who do we actually buy them from? i guess im asking are dust players goin to be totally dependent on eve and its corps. How will dust players make isk. will it be from fighting alone? Ive got alot of questions? ill ask one set at a time. This is the first set !!! lol
1) No, they don't have to share control. Unless they're in the same corporation, and/or in the same alliance.
2) I would say both sides have equal opportunity to make money, but considering that the economic aspects of EVE are not so much a focus in Dust, it's very likely that EVE players will be making the vast majority of this money. However, considering the ideal that EVE and Dust players will be working together, the income generated by Dust productivity and the income received by EVE trading will be shared amongst the two. I imagine, however, that given time Dust players will have the opportunity to set up their own markets and buy/sell orders in orbiting stations, assuming there is a station in orbit near/around the planet.
In response to the second half of the question, I can almost guarantee you that basic items will be NPC generated, meaning you can get them anywhere. More advanced equipment and armor - AKA the expensive stuff - will likely be bought off EVE players via industrial corporations.
3) Dust will not be totally dependent on EVE. It is likely Dust will be fairly dependent on EVE in the very early stages for more advanced battles (like funding those fancy proto suits), but the idea is that the games will be able to work independently just as easily. However, you'll be missing out on an enormous part of the experience, not to mention potentially millions (if not billions) of isk if you play your cards right.
4) Again, Dust players will eventually be able to make isk by selling industrial goods off of a planet's surface. It's still unknown as to whether or not this will require aid from EVE, although I feel it will likely be necessary if you want to make any sort of a profit off of your goods. |
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