DUST Search - Any Muslims here?

miahus wrote:

madd mudd wrote:

miahus wrote:

I hate to get into a religious debate, but you're wrong mad mudd :), if you say it mentions death to unbelievers in several places, quote me one of them plz.

Sura 9:29-33
Sura 66:9
Quran (2:191-193)
Quran (2:244)
Quran (2:216)

Not to mention the very origin of the religion, unfortunately, does deal with a lot with battles between Mohammad's followers and Meccans, thus cementing the Islam religion in the world. Not that it really matters...

The OP made a backhanded comment about other religions, and put "fight for islam" as part of his first post.

Very distasteful IMO. No one cares if he wants to have a group of regional friends to play with, or even of the same religion, but those two comments were unneccessary and distasteful.

If he truly is willing to just play with anyone, though preffering regional proximity, saying backhanded comments about other religions and saying fight for Islam isn't going to help with that.

I asked you to quote me one, not to just drop numbers on me. I have read the parts you mentioned but there is nothing there that calls for killing non believers just like that on the spot, and then you appreciating us not practicing otherwise we will go around killing nonbelievers.
All chapters and verses you mentioned cannot be correctly understood unless they are considered parts of one integral whole that must be read in the context of the clear-cut quranic rule that war is permitted only in self defence. in other words, the injunction to fight is relevant only in the event of aggression committed against the muslim community or state, or in the presence of an unmistakable threat to its security.
Like most internet educated religious scholars, you have been mis/disinformed. I don't even know what translation you were quoting, but i can tell it is a kittened up one :)


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Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 19:41:00 - [1] - Quote As'Salaam Awakum brothers and sisters! When the game fully releases me and some friends will make a corp in EVE and Dust 514 for those who wish to show their passion for Allah! Ashadu anLa illah ha ill allah, wa ashadu anna mohammadun wa'raslla, audibillah min al'shaytan er rajeem! bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim. So please brothers and sisters, put your PSN name below and i shall add you :D Christian brothers and sisters are welcome as well :) Anyone else, even if not Muslima is welcome to join to fight for Islam! Sami-allahu akbar!
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 19:44:00 - [2] - Quote JL3Eleven wrote: I will be starting a corp for all the single good looking ladies. Please send nudy pics to see if you are good looking enough. LOL nice one XD
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 19:48:00 - [3] - Quote Jin Robot wrote: Not a religious forum, lets not get off topic. i was trying to recruit :D not talk about religion. thank you.
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 19:53:00 - [4] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: everyone chill the kitten out. salaam, thank you(:
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 22:03:00 - [5] - Quote No hate guys, religion is a perspective... nothing wrong with it as long as people don't force it on others and kill people over it. Salaam to my brothers and sisters that are already in corps and can't join(:
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.06 22:04:00 - [6] - Quote Ire's thug wrote: Why would you ruin a perfectly good game with relgion? This game is buggy enough lets keep buggy dogma out! Haha joking! But serious. Relgion sucks. Edit: that gets me thinking... can anyone tell me a sci fi book/show/comic has a musilem is the main protaganist.. I dont think ive ever seen one! I would like to see if something like that has ever been made. Then again, sci fi is all about progressive thinking... relgion dosent have a good track record as far as that goes.. Thank you for your view on religion(: but i half to disagree, even an evolutionist realizes that people evolved into religion to form community's. I'm not the average religious person who can never defend themselves because of ignorance.(:
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 00:07:00 - [7] - Quote Athene Alland wrote: And of course, The Sleeper Has Awakened Rather apt for Dust don't you think? EDIT; Sorry off topic, not a muslim, actually a heathen (witch) but there you go, there is something spiritual in us all, it just manefests differently... but hii to a fellow writer (Elijah). - 'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio'- Unlike the other two middle east religions, Allah doesn't condemn everyone to hell just because they do not believe in him(: so, Salaam, peace be upon you my friend and hi to you as well. <3 and no problem, its an open forum post, post what you want my friend.
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 16:43:00 - [8] - Quote Please stop posting things against religions.. ( Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Paganism, Heathenism, Hinduism, Bhudism. etc ) And stop making silly accusations against the Al'Quran or Bible. It makes you look uneducated and immature. Keep this post mature and don't make fun of others because of their beliefs or culture. Thank you. Salaam. -Elijah
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 20:50:00 - [9] - Quote Sorry to CCP that people are going a bit out of order on my thread. and about the comment i made about the other religions of the middle east, forgive me. I didn't mean it as insulting. I love all people and i realize people have their own beliefs(: i just wanted a corp that enlisted fellow Muslims so we can form a community for other Muslims to come to. And to the people still trying to prove Islam, Christians, and Jews and other religions wrong... Just stop wasting your time, i understand allot of us religious people are wrong for trying to force it on you, but religion isn't going to go away any time soon, its a way of life, and it was needed in mans evolution for the creation of Community's. " You cannot blame an entire religion or culture as being bad just because there are a few bad people from these religions and cultures... Otherwise every community, even atheists, would be considered wrong. " love to CCP, i never meant to start a flame war, everyone is welcome to comment what they want on this thread, but i say again, please be mature, and don't ridicule others!
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 20:59:00 - [10] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: These forums are delving into religious debates now..... -_- *sigh false, this was never meant as a religious debate. people changed it into that because they cannot get along...

Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 21:01:00 - [11] - Quote Athene Alland wrote: Elijah Revan wrote: Sorry to CCP that people are going a bit out of order on my thread. and about the comment i made about the other religions of the middle east, forgive me. I didn't mean it as insulting. I love all people and i realize people have their own beliefs(: i just wanted a corp that enlisted fellow Muslims so we can form a community for other Muslims to come to. And to the people still trying to prove Islam, Christians, and Jews and other religions wrong... Just stop wasting your time, i understand allot of us religious people are wrong for trying to force it on you, but religion isn't going to go away any time soon, its a way of life, and it was needed in mans evolution for the creation of Community's. " You cannot blame an entire religion or culture as being bad just because there are a few bad people from these religions and cultures... Otherwise every community, even atheists, would be considered wrong. " love to CCP, i never meant to start a flame war, everyone is welcome to comment what they want on this thread, but i say again, please be mature, and don't ridicule others! I fully understand, you wish to game with people like you, as does everyone... I myself am likely to join/start a corps that enjoys a bit of light RP gaming, but doesn't take it too seriously as is probably evident in my posts. Also I have to say all this debate, good or ill, is at least getting people viewing your thread, and keeping it active, which can't be a bad thing. blessed be, - 'Ad Mortis Nos Tripudio' - haha, thank you my heathen friend. :D Asalaam awaikum! peace be upon you
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 21:02:00 - [12] - Quote Well, the thread has held it together for 5 pages without fully falling into a flame war, just a few bad comments here and there ( mine was one, still sorry for that. ) so, peace be upon you all, whether Muslim or not. A many non-muslims will come into paradise, because of their good works(: Allah bless you all! :D
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote Sleepy Zan wrote: Elijah Revan wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: These forums are delving into religious debates now..... -_- sigh false, this was never meant as a religious debate. people changed it into that because they cannot get along... I never said it was your fault, you were just trying to get something going for select group of people to be able to easily find each other and hang out, there's nothing wrong with that. People just can't control themselves and it got out of hand, it is what it is. no worries, *** happens Ameen, sorry for attacking you in a non-necessary manner. Allah forgive me. i didn't know what you meant. but yes, it has gotten a little shaky, but it has held better than most forums where religion was discussed Allhamduillah!
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 21:19:00 - [14] - Quote Adun Tassadar wrote: I vote to have this thread locked. Theres no reason to have this kind of thread on a game forum. Take this to another website. I don't think i want to get on to a forum to look at info about a beta and see muslims trying to recruit. I tell you one thing if a Christian group came up, all hell would break loose. Just my thoughts. Let the hate replys begin: I enjoy them. Now, Now, no reason for hate :p there's nothing wrong with the thread trying to recruit? Its no different than someone else trying to recruit? Can people just have equality and stop hating....
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 22:10:00 - [15] - Quote I am not and NEVER will be a racist or anti-religion person.... i understand a racist forum being deleted and i ABSOLUTELY agree! This post is not in any way racist or against any other religion. I want a corp that has a Islamic, Christian, and other religion community so we don't half to constantly be hated on and picked on, to be in our own community and alliance. ONCE AGAIN = please act mature and modest. I call for an alliance between Christian themed corps ( i know there are many ) and Muslims themed corps ( i'm sure there are a few )! We must defend our faith in hard times brothers and sisters <3
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.07 22:11:00 - [16] - Quote Icy Tiger wrote: Wow, this thread is VERY unusual,yet strangely fascinating. It's great to see the religions and atheists get through 6 pages without war breaking out. I'm glad Insha'Allah <3 i don't hate atheists, if they do good they will be alright Insha'Allah <3
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.08 00:24:00 - [17] - Quote SoLJae wrote: 7 freakin pages! I am so impressed with all of you, for real. Salaam :D i can get along with Atheists as long as they don't force their beliefs on me, and in return i will not mine on them, I'm Muslima and 70% of my friends are Christian and Atheist :p i'm pretty accepting lol
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.08 01:25:00 - [18] - Quote miahus wrote: madd mudd wrote: miahus wrote: I hate to get into a religious debate, but you're wrong mad mudd :), if you say it mentions death to unbelievers in several places, quote me one of them plz. Sura 9:29-33 Sura 66:9 Quran (2:191-193) Quran (2:244) Quran (2:216) Not to mention the very origin of the religion, unfortunately, does deal with a lot with battles between Mohammad's followers and Meccans, thus cementing the Islam religion in the world. Not that it really matters... The OP made a backhanded comment about other religions, and put "fight for islam" as part of his first post. Very distasteful IMO. No one cares if he wants to have a group of regional friends to play with, or even of the same religion, but those two comments were unneccessary and distasteful. If he truly is willing to just play with anyone, though preffering regional proximity, saying backhanded comments about other religions and saying fight for Islam isn't going to help with that. I asked you to quote me one, not to just drop numbers on me. I have read the parts you mentioned but there is nothing there that calls for killing non believers just like that on the spot, and then you appreciating us not practicing otherwise we will go around killing nonbelievers. All chapters and verses you mentioned cannot be correctly understood unless they are considered parts of one integral whole that must be read in the context of the clear-cut quranic rule that war is permitted only in self defence. in other words, the injunction to fight is relevant only in the event of aggression committed against the muslim community or state, or in the presence of an unmistakable threat to its security. Like most internet educated religious scholars, you have been mis/disinformed. I don't even know what translation you were quoting, but i can tell it is a kittened up one :) Brother, let them stay in their ways, for Allah ( swt ) is merciful enough to forgive them their ways, for they surely have gone astray from the purity. Remember Al-Fatiha Al-Quran my beloved brother. Audibillah Hi-Min al-shaytan ir-rajeem. Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim. Alhamduillahi rabb-illallameen. Ar-rahman ir-rahim. Maliki yawm-deen. Iyyaka nu'budu wa iyyaka,nasta-een. Ihdinas sirat-al-musta'queem. Sirat-ihdina,Anamta alayhim, Ghary-ill magdubi alayhim walad, Dwaleen. Ameen. ( I seek refuge in Allah from the Satan Accursed. In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the most merciful. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. the beneficent, the most merciful. Master of the day of judgment. Thee ( alone ) do we worship, and Thee ( alone ) do we ask for help each and every day. Guide us the straight path The path of those who bestow your grace. Not the path of those who bestow your anger, nor of those who go astray. O, Allah accept.
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.08 03:56:00 - [19] - Quote Song Soulfire wrote: Elijah Revan wrote: Audibillah Hi-Min al-shaytan ir-rajeem. Bismillah ir-rahman ir-rahim. Alhamduillahi rabb-illallameen. Ar-rahman ir-rahim. Maliki yawm-deen. Iyyaka nu'budu wa iyyaka,nasta-een. Ihdinas sirat-al-musta'queem. Sirat-ihdina,Anamta alayhim, Ghary-ill magdubi alayhim walad, Dwaleen. Ameen. ( I seek refuge in Allah from the Satan Accursed. In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the most merciful. All praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. the beneficent, the most merciful. Master of the day of judgment. Thee ( alone ) do we worship, and Thee ( alone ) do we ask for help each and every day. Guide us the straight path The path of those who bestow your grace. Not the path of those who bestow your anger, nor of those who go astray. O, Allah accept. O_o that is all kinds of cool. 'not the path of those who bestow your anger, nor the path of those who go astray." your point? lol
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.08 17:51:00 - [20] - Quote I agree, i am glad we have made it thus far without fighting. Just a few tolls here and there, but i know there just joking around(: and btw, when i said atheists forcing their beliefs i did not mean religion, i meant the belief that there is no god. And when i quoted Al-Fatiha Al-Quran, I was not directing it to anyone but my brother. Peace and blessings of Allah be upon all of you(:

Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.08 17:53:00 - [21] - Quote And there is no reason to lock this thread, no one is technically being racist, against religion in a strong manner, or threatening anyone, we're just having a peaceful mature conversation. Not to mention, the reason i made this whole thread was to recruit fellow Muslims, not even get into a conversation. haha <3
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.13 02:07:00 - [22] - Quote ENOUGH. I do not like that everyone is causing a flame war. And may the US ambassador to Libya rest in peace, it was wrong to hurt that man over some stupid video. They should not have made the video, and people in the middle east should not hate america. i am an american citizen myself.
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.13 12:42:00 - [23] - Quote Did i not say ENOUGH!!!! STOP disrespecting the bible, Koran, Torah, or tanakha. I don't like you all hating on any religion, ok? So just go make your own goddamn threads and stop debating politics over mine. I send my peace and prayers to the family's hurt in Libya, and i AM NOT for Islamic extremists nor militant groups, i just want everyone to get along and stop criticizing my beliefs, or anyone elses.
Elijah Revan 88	Posted - 2012.09.13 13:22:00 - [24] - Quote Phantomnom wrote: Thor wouldn't tolerate this from any of you. Bring back the old gods. Hail mighty Wodin! :D