Take a Jew, a Hindu and a Muslim. Ask them to interpret Buddhist teachings. You'll get a different answer from every one. Just look at the northern ireland stuff kicking off. Even people who believe in the same god decide that they're right, everyone else is wrong. This is why religion is usually Internet suicide.

Salaam :D i can get along with Atheists as long as they don't force their beliefs on me, and in return i will not mine on them, I'm Muslima and 70% of my friends are Christian and Atheist :p i'm pretty accepting lol

Flying Spaghetti Monster > You

Flying Spaghetti Monster > You



(Edit to say: not meaning to offend, just being a smartass)

My favorite part of this thread was when people who can't read Arabic try to tell those who can what Al' rasulAllah meant when he recited.

Also, Elijah you can not give Salaams to the kufar... If you are Sunni, anyway. If you are Shia then you know the drill.

Then I'm willing to bet you find the Arabic word 'Algebra' down right fascinating.

I'm ashamed that the American Diplomat was killed in Libya/Middle East. But the
protests are justified considering the Jewish guy Sam Bacile is creating a movie that downright insults directly, the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) peace be upon him. That's a disgusting thing to do.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/12/anti-islam-filmmaker-sam-bacile-goes-into-hiding-after-movie-sparks-violent-riots-in-egypt-libya/


If it was about Jesus (isa) it would've been even worse. From both Christianx and Muslims, because we respect him as well.

And protests? If the world didn't protest, there would be no freedom.


Read the link, then come back.

takes two to tango man...

4 people were killed i believe and idk man but if the movie didnt show up then there wouldnt have been protest but as u said it does not mean God gave you the right to kill anyone innocent over it so in reality it "fanatics" that believe since their religion was insulted they have to kill whoever insulted it in this case it was an american film and the closet they can do was rush the embassy. Libyan Security forces had fought along side the americans in the embassy and helped evacuate as many as they could. Even they know a bit of tolerance and to take things so seriously. but again it was just a group of "fanatics" who thought this was the right thing to do and i find kind of funny that these "fanatics" take it upon themselves to kill for God because they think thats what God/Muhammad wants them to do. its just senseless violence, just like the crusades. Holy wars will never be won by anyone.

it just boils my eggs...

does all this boil down to schooling, or something else?

What amazes me is the memory issue....Or memory lapse to be specific....

By that I mean, that we all know the US role in liberating Libya recently. Its very recent history. Without the US, Gaddafi would still be in charge.

Mohammed, on the other hand, lived from 570 to 672AD. That's a very long time ago. No one can say for sure or certainty that all things stated about this person in the modern world are factual, simply because there is no way to prove any of it.

For that reason, the Islamic reaction to the Bacile film, is totally unreasonable and out of proportion. It would be simpler and smarter for the Muslims to refute what Bacile said in the film, because it cannot be proven in any way. Further, the recent memory of the US help in liberating Libya should mean something and be given respect.

But the Muslims chose to play right into Bacile's hands by responding in the way his film suggests they would - with violence based on 1300 year old rhetoric.

Muslims were at one stage some of the smartest folks in the world. They gave us mathematics, astronomy and complex architecture. Now, we note them more for destruction and the massacre of innocents and it really does not need to be this way.

I'm not refuting that other countries helped liberate Libya.

But it is undeniable fact that in most modern day conflicts where western allies are involved in cooperation, that the US is the strategic and tactical leader as well as the principal financier of such theaters of conflict.

This is because of the concept of "big battalions" and "might is right". The US wants to liberate a country, others are prepared to help. If this US does not want involvement in a theater, for example, Syria, then other western allies will not act alone. That's how the big battalions and might is right concepts work in modern geo-politics.

For the record, I'm Australian and I'm not a Muslim. I was against the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq as my firm belief is that all terror roads lead directly to a country I mentioned in an earlier post, which has an Islamic nuke. I always am amused when people worry about Iran getting nukes. Hello? Anybody home? Where do they get the nuke tech? AQ Khan. Pakistan. Same country that gave rise to the Taliban. Very fishy stuff in the geo-politic. Bin Laden casually holed up in a fortified compound in a military garrison town swarming with ISI security personnel and apparently they had no knowledge? Yeah right. I smell a rat.

Where have they put up the current leader all zahwiri? In a mansion in the government area of Islamabad? Would not surprise me.

Cloak and dagger stuff, truly.

ENOUGH. I do not like that everyone is causing a flame war. And may the US ambassador to Libya rest in peace, it was wrong to hurt that man over some stupid video. They should not have made the video, and people in the middle east should not hate america. i am an american citizen myself.

Syrian Air Defense weaponry is not the same as Libyan Air Defense weaponry.

Pre-revolution, I would have given Libya a 4 of 10 rating
Syria is more of an 8 of 10.

The US, China, and Russia are the only real 10 of 10s, most major NATO countries are a 9 of 10.

Djibouti would be a 0...just for reference.

So its not a lack of US backing, its that air strikes into Syria represent a much greater risk than air strikes into Libya did. Helping Syrian rebels would be for the US like another invasion of Iraq Lots and Lots of sorties.

You forget to add, "with US backing"

It wasn't until the US offered logistical support that the operations begun.

Same reason why Syria job is right now un-do-able. No US logistical support for military operations.

US backing, then things happen....

My cousin once had an awesome bumper sticker that read "Dear Lord, Please Protect Me From Your Followers."

This isn't the forum to be having this kind of debate or argument in. The OP has his right to seek out players of his own religion to play with. There is nothing wrong with that.

I'm a Mormon...would you all get upset if I made a thread looking for other Mormons to play DUST with?