bad idea
what ******* game do u know with tanks that doesnt have the tank driver using the main gun
dumb suggestion, not a good way to balance tanks

Dropships =/= tanks
Dropships = transport chopper from BF3

So u want to buff tanks by allowing the driver to just drive and the gunner of the main turret not worrying about where hes going.

Currently tanks are handicapped by the fact drivers need look whre there going but can only look at where there shootng so ost have to stand still to get a clean shot but now u want to make it so the can keep moving while someone else shoots your ass making tank harder to kill yet easyer for them to kill u

Ya great idea please ccp ingnore this idea

I posted about this in the general dicussion without looking first, i'm sorry OP *sobs*

Anyways, I completely agree with this with the addition of the driver being the tank commander; having the ability to kick players if they're not doing an adequate job or if they're not part of the orginal tank crew.

I really don't like this idea. Driving a big, slow vehicle and doing nothing but drive it is incredibly boring. Anyone who played Planetside 1 knows what I'm talking about. Footing the bill for an expensive vehicle, spending all those SP on it, and not ever getting a kill for your effort except for a couple times you run someone over would be terrible. I understand that tanks are a bit too much now, but the solution isn't to make driving a tank a thankless, gloryless, boring way to play the game.

I like the idea of 4 in a tank makes it really really worth killing.

This is still a very lazy way to approach the problem. Someone dumping millions of ISK and SP into a tank wants to get some kind of payoff. Shooting a small missile turret ain't it. The way you make tankers need to help of other players is by making tanks vulnerable to infantry if they're not supported by their own infantry. Tank drivers should feel like badasses. Everyone should feel like a badass. Making driving a tank not fun is a horrible way to approach the issue of tanks being overpowered.

Lot of tank hatred going on here.

LAV's are useful without weapons. Honestly, I wish there was a way to NOT have a turret on an LAV, just to use it as a fast travel device. You can use them to drop people behind enemy lines, use them as portable spawn points, etc. They are extremely multipurpose and the turret is just a 'bonus'. You can use them for multiple roles even without their weapon.

HAV's, aka Tanks, are not useful without weapons. Their only advantage is a big gun and scads of hit points. The small turrets are a bonus. If the main gun didn't exist on a tank it would be absolutely pointless. It's slow, can't go over as much terrain, and is easy to see and target from a distance as it crawls toward you. More importantly, if the driver did NOT have control of the gun, it would be mandatory that the vehicle have a second person. Otherwise it would be useless. One person calling one in would basically have a large, slow, armored crate.

Dropships are not designed to be weapons of destruction. Their primary purpose is to move troops. Comparing them to tanks is outright silly.

Let the guy who's forking over a quarter-of-a-million to a million isk for a tank both drive and shoot it at the same time.

Would you drive the tank or shoot the main turret?

Tbh I would be trying to set the dam thing on fire.

If I had to be in it tho I would be the driver 90% of the time and 10% main turret just to mix it up a little.

Also + 1 Mobius Wyvern because i know deep down your starting to see the light

Tyras Borg got a like 2

Man its strange handing out likes to known tank drivers lol

Pretty sure there's already fast turning variants in game. They are very power hungry however.

Although with the bugged skills not working at the minute, your very limited as to what you can fit on your tanks power and CPU wise. It's certainly not like last build, now you really have to make choices as the power just isn't there.

You will never sell your average gamer on the idea of spending millions of ISK and SP acquiring, fitting, and skilling into a vehicle, only to tell him that his only payoff for all that expenditure will be to move a slow, lumbering vehicle forward and backwards and turn while other people shoot guns and get kills and have a good time.

Honestly, you've all diverged into the realm of "doing it for the sake of doing it". What's the point? Is there even one anymore? Something nebulous about teamwork? All this work CCP would do, this inelegant solution that leaves nobody happy, and for essentially no reason.

If we get a 4man tank it has to be a tank not one of these glass tanks we currently have

So i would say a boost in HP by at least 25-50%

Slot layout, possibly more slots so a shield tank maybe 6high 4low

PG/CPU increase

Skill increase and make it a have HAV skill level 4

ISK price 5mil

If tank prices weren't colossal then I would agree with this idea. However, most skilled tanks drivers do not want to risk loosing their vehicles due to having terrible gunners. "But there's grouping" Care to give me a statistics of how many people in Dust group up? Got Mics? Good gunners? I find it lacking.


Also, consider this:

How many times were you in a tank and nobody near you thought of coming inside?

I still say a boost in mod slots and PG/CPU to make it really feared since it requires 4ppl to operate it to maximum effectivness