You guys realize with every post like this you are giving stb exactly what they want? And by that I mean recruitment opportunities. Of course you do because it's stb guys other accounts making these posts, theyre using this as a sort of propaganda making it seem like everybody is scared of them which in turn makes more people want to join. And yes tanks are overpowered they are either going to be nerfed, raised in price significantly or av will be buffed. We all know ccp is doing something about it so why complain about it constantly? As for all the stb posts if you're going to post so many at least post them for what they are, recruitment threads.

STB's fully spec'd tank members are Tednuget and Lurchasaurus but we also have members who have started spec'ing tanks more so for the purposes of counteracting other tanks such as Marston and ragewardog. Ted and lurch usually always run tanks but our other guys will occasionally pull them put. A majority of our members run assault loadouts, thats including myself, God-Nova, Krucial, Quick, youngcuz and several other members who prefer gun combat. Just because you get wrecked by some with an STB tag that is using a particular style of play it doesn't mean thats how the entire corp plays.

If you think that STB is a bunch of no gun game scrubs then please please add me stlcarlos989 as a friend on PSN and when we get arena battles where its the same gear and stats myself, nova, krucial, quick, torsten and any of our other STB gungame elites will show you how we play.

ima just start copy pasting for this.......ewar aside...

"lemme throw this your way to get my point across. if you still dont agree after this, thats fine.

american soldiers on a battlefield come across a tank. fine, they call in the av guy, pull out a javelin, and pop the sumbich and be on their way.

If they were attacking a freaking tank division however, do you think we would send in a platoon of infantry armed with rocket launchers? NO, we would call in our own tanks."

Carlos i have seen you on since first build... use to think you was probably the only one with gungame at all. would join a battle and get wrecked at first. But when i skilled up, and used the weapon you used, That damned OP Creodron... you was no better then me at all. i have played you, i have killed you.... and i have seen nothing special.

Hell most of us people in ROFL have killed you. and the rest of the STD's... i mean stb's. And the Rest of the EV's. Yall aint special.

And like i said once before. i have seen ya tank drivers rage after i have taken out there tanks 2-3 times a match before the AV nerf. You Carlos are the only one that sticks around. no matter how many times we kill you that match. Guess you the only one willing to get that SP an ISK in the end no matter how many times you die. Yalls others just get to butthurt and quit. :(

Full tank with good turret expirence can stop any effort by people to kill the tanks and when it gets to more tanks it gets to where all attempts are destroyed without any risk of the tank, cause they sit far and just spam fire at anything they see.

Carlos i have seen you on since first build... use to think you was probably the only one with gungame at all. would join a battle and get wrecked at first. But when i skilled up, and used the weapon you used, That damned OP Creodron... you was no better then me at all. i have played you, i have killed you.... and i have seen nothing special.

Hell most of us people in ROFL have killed you. and the rest of the STD's... i mean stb's. And the Rest of the EV's. Yall aint special.

And like i said once before. i have seen ya tank drivers rage after i have taken out there tanks 2-3 times a match before the AV nerf. You Carlos are the only one that sticks around. no matter how many times we kill you that match. Guess you the only one willing to get that SP an ISK in the end no matter how many times you die. Yalls others just get to butthurt and quit. :(

lol if u allow 1 tank to run u around all game then ur bad tbqh no matter how good 1 tank is if u get some coordination u will force it to back up.

ppl on these forums seems to think that u absolutely must destroy the tank, most tankers back up once starting to take too much dmg making a tank ineffective all game even if u dont destroy it is just as good

now if the enemy drops 4 tanks then good luck gettin coordinated with randoms but corp battles again once everything is in and working as intended doubt it would be a big deal for a coordinated grp

the vibe i keep gettin on the forums is that ppl playin these hisec pub games seem to want to actually take down tanks with 1-2 ppl with minimal effort and judging by the price of the tank compared to your dropsuit that **** wont ever happen unlike pubs in games like BF3 1-2 ppl wont be able to take down a well fitted tank aka a marauder and above BUT 1-2 ppl can take down a militia or standard respectively with some coordination

Carlos i have seen you on since first build... use to think you was probably the only one with gungame at all. would join a battle and get wrecked at first. But when i skilled up, and used the weapon you used, That damned OP Creodron... you was no better then me at all. i have played you, i have killed you.... and i have seen nothing special.

Hell most of us people in ROFL have killed you. and the rest of the STD's... i mean stb's. And the Rest of the EV's. Yall aint special.

And like i said once before. i have seen ya tank drivers rage after i have taken out there tanks 2-3 times a match before the AV nerf. You Carlos are the only one that sticks around. no matter how many times we kill you that match. Guess you the only one willing to get that SP an ISK in the end no matter how many times you die. Yalls others just get to butthurt and quit. :(

I wouldn't call anyone an FPS pro based on their FPS skills in DUST, because the FPS part of this game is broken. The hit detection is random and the aiming, shooting and whatever is so rough. It's very difficult to put into words, but BF3 is so much smoother than this game.

If they kick my ass in Battlefield 3, then yeah, they are pro because i'm above 99% of BF3 players for KDR, without stat padding with tanks or aircraft. In BF3, you will always see me being the medic and at the same time, mutilating everyone I come across because i'm one of the few people on the game that can get that high without stat padding with vehicles, whilst reviving and healing pretty much everyone.

In DUST I still play the medic, because that's my role, but I have trouble killing people like I do in BF3, because of the reasons I mentioned.

I've always veiwed vehicle users' KDRs as being invalid because it's sort of cheating when you use the main cannon of an MBT to blow up an infantry dude. In BF3 I don't use vehicles often for this reason, because I think it makes me more of a legitimately good player, which I am.

In DUST however, I don't value the game as a proper FPS. So I pilot a lot of drop ships and gun them for a friend, and hop into a tank every now and then.

I think I went on a bit of a rant there, but the bottom line is, we can't take FPS skills on here seriously until they sort out the FPS part.

I wouldn't call anyone an FPS pro based on their FPS skills in DUST, because the FPS part of this game is broken. The hit detection is random and the aiming, shooting and whatever is so rough. It's very difficult to put into words, but BF3 is so much smoother than this game.

If they kick my ass in Battlefield 3, then yeah, they are pro because i'm above 99% of BF3 players for KDR, without stat padding with tanks or aircraft. In BF3, you will always see me being the medic and at the same time, mutilating everyone I come across because i'm one of the few people on the game that can get that high without stat padding with vehicles, whilst reviving and healing pretty much everyone.

In DUST I still play the medic, because that's my role, but I have trouble killing people like I do in BF3, because of the reasons I mentioned.

I've always veiwed vehicle users' KDRs as being invalid because it's sort of cheating when you use the main cannon of an MBT to blow up an infantry dude. In BF3 I don't use vehicles often for this reason, because I think it makes me more of a legitimately good player, which I am.

In DUST however, I don't value the game as a proper FPS. So I pilot a lot of drop ships and gun them for a friend, and hop into a tank every now and then.

I think I went on a bit of a rant there, but the bottom line is, we can't take FPS skills on here seriously until they sort out the FPS part.

Cheating?! Everyone has a role, that's an important part of this game. So KDR shouldent really apply.

is it right for a a plumber to ridicule a chef because they dont do the same job? Same applies to different roles in this game. You guys have to stop being so narrow minded and realize not every body wants to play the way you think is "right" or "normal".

It's my views and it's my reasoning. In BF3, I do care about my stats page, as I did in MAG. I don't value the KDR of a vehicle user in FPS games, but I value their vehicle support and some other statistics.

I never said vehicles don't have a place on the battlefield.

pfft if your good in one fps you can adapt it to another with experience of that game. but i do agree the game isnt finished yet. god i hate speed boosted scouts right up there with tanks. sometimes i can kill em, it's just so random

Don't suggest waving your KD around these forum. Isn't impressive in a game that takes no skill. Or in any game. Even if it did take skill, half the players are newbies at fps.

Just like any other FPS game. Stats mean nothing until you go against actually competition. Everyone knows how easy it is to from a squad or pub and start racking up kills. Anyone that brags about their KDR usually are playing with friends with mics and owning us randumbs. I'm not saying any of you guys suck just it is pointless to brag about KDR when you are going against basically no competition.

while we are on the topic on being nothing special, why do alot of ROFL i have seen abuse the scout suit knowing fully well it has a problem with hit detection? The sad thing is abuse it yet only works well on randoms still :/

dont complain when u have ur own members in ur organisation abusing **** to look better than they actually are.

In the highlighted sentence above, you seemingly seem to be calling out/ flaming STB and EV on behalf of ROFL. There are alot of people in that Alliance, can you truly say that you speak for (and on behalf of) the majority of its Members?

Metagaming looks to be a rather large part of New Eden, so it would be a good idea to think a little more before posting. It's really not a good idea to be posting on behalf of whole alliances, unless you are the leader.

Perhaps you are the Leader of ROFL... I have no way of checking, but assuming that the ONS in your name stands for Onslaught Inc, then you weren't 1 of the original Corporations that formed ROFL.

Have you ever even seen the Sights of an AR on Dust 514? OR do you just All use tanks in fear of losing that KD, of which you buffed with nothing but tanks.


I mean it would be different if they wouldn't Nerf all AV stuff on the game. But i mean why not use the most OP thing on the game then brag about how well you can spawn camp with ya OP tank?

You cant Claim your any good if you run a tank every match. I mean seriously.... fps of tank shooter? i thought it said it was a FPSMMO. Maybe i was mislead about this game or maybe CCP is just the same with the tanks.

Have you ever even seen the Sights of an AR on Dust 514? OR do you just All use tanks in fear of losing that KD, of which you buffed with nothing but tanks.


I mean it would be different if they wouldn't Nerf all AV stuff on the game. But i mean why not use the most OP thing on the game then brag about how well you can spawn camp with ya OP tank?

You cant Claim your any good if you run a tank every match. I mean seriously.... fps of tank shooter? i thought it said it was a FPSMMO. Maybe i was mislead about this game or maybe CCP is just the same with the tanks.

Have you ever even seen the Sights of an AR on Dust 514? OR do you just All use tanks in fear of losing that KD, of which you buffed with nothing but tanks.


I mean it would be different if they wouldn't Nerf all AV stuff on the game. But i mean why not use the most OP thing on the game then brag about how well you can spawn camp with ya OP tank?

You cant Claim your any good if you run a tank every match. I mean seriously.... fps of tank shooter? i thought it said it was a FPSMMO. Maybe i was mislead about this game or maybe CCP is just the same with the tanks.

um......stb has 2 official tank drivers. thats it. try playing stlcarlos989, god nova, quickgloves, krucial, or youngcuz for strarters. im sure they'd love to teach you how to use an ar.

edit: also, i dont give a **** about my points. i just want to play. havent looked at the leaderboard in a while, all its good for is showing whos played longer.

I love how two players is the whole corporation of STB.

The rest of us are killing you with guns, in fact we do more killing with guns then tanks. Sorry you run into many of the STB tanks, it happens to the best of us. But unlike you, I went forge gun and started killing tanks with ease. Maybe you should get off your kitten and learn to play the game thats out. Maybe if you went AV then you would understand this better.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.