DUST Search - Skill Tutorials!? I Don't know how to work this thing!?!?

Kelshaw Xu wrote:

Phosphorus Arkadios wrote:

I understand the concept of skills... it makes sense. You need to learn things to get better at them, but I don't understand the system behind it.

What are skillbooks for? Why are they SO FREAKING EXPENSIVE!?!? It takes up nearly all of my money! (~400k!!). What the hell does that multiplier modifier do!? I keep trying to figure this thing out, but for the life of me, it doesn't make sense. I searched the forums and (and the "manual") and couldn't find any in depth explanations.

Skill Books are for learning skills you do not yet know. you will only ever have to buy a skill book once. That skill can be leveled to 5.

The multiplier is how many more times the skill is going to cost in Skill Points, compared to a x1 skill. like Mechanics.

note that many skills require you to know other skills before you can learn them. a good example might be you will never learn calculus if you never learned basic math and algebra.

so with that in mind do not buy skills with a red X next to the name, until your ready for them.


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Phosphorus Arkadios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.09.03 04:00:00 - [1] - Quote I understand the concept of skills... it makes sense. You need to learn things to get better at them, but I don't understand the system behind it. What are skillbooks for? Why are they SO FREAKING EXPENSIVE!?!? It takes up nearly all of my money! (~400k!!). What the hell does that multiplier modifier do!? I keep trying to figure this thing out, but for the life of me, it doesn't make sense. I searched the forums and (and the "manual") and couldn't find any in depth explanations.
Phosphorus Arkadios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.09.03 04:08:00 - [2] - Quote Kyromus Lyndis Kytaar wrote: Skill books teach your character how to utilize the skill, you then have to invest skill points into the skills. The multipliers are just that. They multiply the amount of skill points needed to upgrade the skill. As for the money issue that's pretty null... Run as militia for a few games, you only get isk. Why is the cost of the book multiplied by that as well? Why don't they just show the actual price instead of the "multiplier" thing. It's just uneccessary text on the screen. Is there a way to LOWER the multiplier costs? And why can you buy MULTIPLE skillbooks of the same type?
Phosphorus Arkadios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.09.03 04:19:00 - [3] - Quote Kelshaw Xu wrote: Phosphorus Arkadios wrote: I understand the concept of skills... it makes sense. You need to learn things to get better at them, but I don't understand the system behind it. What are skillbooks for? Why are they SO FREAKING EXPENSIVE!?!? It takes up nearly all of my money! (~400k!!). What the hell does that multiplier modifier do!? I keep trying to figure this thing out, but for the life of me, it doesn't make sense. I searched the forums and (and the "manual") and couldn't find any in depth explanations. Skill Books are for learning skills you do not yet know. you will only ever have to buy a skill book once. That skill can be leveled to 5. The multiplier is how many more times the skill is going to cost in Skill Points, compared to a x1 skill. like Mechanics. note that many skills require you to know other skills before you can learn them. a good example might be you will never learn calculus if you never learned basic math and algebra. so with that in mind do not buy skills with a red X next to the name, until your ready for them. That makes sense... but... why can't they just get rid of the uneccessary crap from the screen? Why not get rid of that "multiplier" and just have it say "100,000" instead of "25,000(x4)" It's 100% unnecessary. Unless that multiplier value changes, I don't see why it's needed. Why even GIVE the option to buy multiple skillbooks? If you only need to buy them once then why let you buy 10? Does it benefit one to get more?? I don't mind the complexity of the game (in fact, I miss this level of complexity in games) but some things just seem completely redundant or useless, it causes clutter, and causes people looking into the game to turn away.
Phosphorus Arkadios Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.09.03 04:35:00 - [4] - Quote Kelshaw Xu wrote: For many of us, the skill system is something we are used to. This system is related to EvE's system. nearly mirrored. the multiplier is really a gauge for you as a player. "How long will it take to learn a x5 skill?" (x1 skill) x5 = x5 skill at lvl 1 it will always tell you how many SP for the next lvl. I know its frustrating you cant trash or sell off clutter. but its beta and ccp says Soon TM. I guess that multiplier makes sense when you mention it that way. Like a skillset that becomes exponentially more expensive, to the power of 3, as opposed to scaling to the power of 2. Aighun wrote: It might be that the idea behind being able to get multiple copies is so players can buy and sell them on a player run market. So the skills menu fluctuates like the market as well? Otherwise, I don't see the point in selling skillbooks if they stay the same price... I'm new to this so I wouldn't know. EDIT: It's interesting to see the skillbook be a part of the market.