sure they may have reduced the damage but now i keep getting sniped by swarm launchers. i cant hit snipers so my best bet is to cower behind an objective. and also infantry can't get snipers either. although i like what they did with AV grenades: now no one is spaming them(probly because they're too far away though)

Yeah heavies are way to fast and jump to high...

Yeah heavies are way to fast and jump to high...

What? My head exploded reading that OP.

umm i cant even take a tank down with 3 AVs, nerfing them is ********, shut up kthx

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thats kinda off topic

*EDIT*
any way if i wasn't crear enough now heavy are just spaming at me from far away

Er Joe. Are you on drugs ? I think you should be.

the only drug im on is common sense

Yes AV nades, Swarms and froge guns all need looking at . Far to OP against tanks thats for sure yo.

Or we could just buff tanks thats prob alot less coding anyway.


Edit: now I'm worried the CCP tank fanboy might be like "ow look see guys see lets buff tanks like I said"

Kitten it lets just do away with dropsuits and be done with it.

It was sarcasm; considering HAVs live forever now and swarms only really mess up your aim, your post seemed rather farcical in itself.

sure they may have reduced the damage but now i keep getting sniped by swarm launchers. i cant hit snipers so my best bet is to cower behind an objective. and also infantry can't get snipers either. although i like what they did with AV grenades: now no one is spaming them(probly because they're too far away though)

yes i kind of fgured out that it was sarcasm

also swarm launcher doesn't mess up a tanks aim, when spammed on top of mt. kitten(which tends to show up multiple times per map) it can be very annoying, dealing about 15% per swarm

swarms ALWASE stay in range now and i usually atract about 3-4 AT soldiers so they can cover quite a large area

(@ whats his face who was talking to me about math)

NERF AVs

Tanks are only good because people refuse to switch to AV. This morning I was in a match and a guy called his tank and only manage to get 1 kill with it because more then 4 people were using AV.

Tanks are only good because people refuse to switch to AV. This morning I was in a match and a guy called his tank and only manage to get 1 kill with it because more then 4 people were using AV.

Your a simple fellow I can see and is going to try and argue semantics as opposed to following an argument intelligently.

I will explain, the out of range I refer to is any where(and I mean anywhere) that has something between you and a swarm launcher.

It may be a rock, out cropping or building but it is now your aegis if your low on shields/armor if no blow that Av douche into a new clone.

I know for a fact you can run down any AV fit right now and kill him before he can do anything near significant damage. DOnt assume when you post, Know.

god ur stupid

by intelligent argument u must mean use the fanciest words u know(such as farcist or aegis) in hopes that more people will agree with you

and i know i can kill any AV easily, that was how things were ment to be but people are complaining because they cant kill a sagaris with malitia swarm launchers. seriosly have any of you ever heard of the phrase you get what u pay for

although really i guess my asking for the to be nerfed was partialy just tank destruction rage

Tanks are only good because people refuse to switch to AV. This morning I was in a match and a guy called his tank and only manage to get 1 kill with it because more then 4 people were using AV.

You got hit by the rare and elusive effective Av push on HAVs, congratulations for seeing a rare phenomenon.

Whats a Farcist?

I used the word farcical if thats what your refering to, it means to make light of a situation.

And No big words do not make an intelligent argument, an intelligent argument is one that has a clear and well defined purpose, thats is reinforced by evidence and reason. It should be able to hold up well(see I used a small word there) against scrutiny and counter arguments. Finally you should be able to conclude that your argument is either valid or not valid.

Seeing as you have just raged and did very little of any of those, I dont see intelligence or an argument from your side.

the only drug im on is common sense

it wasn't an AV push(although most of the time i atract one) it was more of a AV sniping my tank when i was trying to fight off 2 lesser tanks(and the only other tank was doing nothing but sitting in the back because he ran away every time he got shot once(he had a gunnlogi and they had a madrugar and a soma which most of the time were aimed at me)

Its plain to everyone else, you are full of crap, this is a fail post. AV needs no nerf at all, in fact a major buff.
If you are still arguining you have the intelligence of a brick or are a really persistent troll.

tone it down a bit.

your the one not seeing things in the bigger picture here. the implementation of ewar will change things significantly.

in addition, vehicles are not meant to be on equal terms with infantry....infantry is the most base level of player that a corp can have on the field ingame and a tank is, well, a tank. if the corp is funded enough, and it is worth winning the battle, they increase their risk and throw some more of their weight around by bringing more expensive, powerful assets onto the field like aerial and ground armor and installations.

For those eve players, its similar to calling a capitol ship op because you cant easily destroy it with your small destroyer...

the scales there are much different but the comparison is the same. in a battle, yes av squads can pop armor and make them retreat, but if the enemy team has a tank squad on the field, dont sit there complaining about tanks being op, you need to get your own team's armor on the field!

if the us army was fighting a russian tank battalion, do you think we would try and destroy them with a platoon of infantry with rocket launchers? no, we would roll in our own armor. again, like i said the capitol ship isnt op, its just a capitol ship. you have to engage it accordingly. av guys will be able to approach their roles much differently when they can throw webifiers.

this doesnt work like BF where you can spawn as an engineer and take out a tank by yourself with 2 shots. this is total war.


edit: you can see how CCP is thinking along these lines since they are trying to get more people to engage tanks with tanks instead of everyone trying to use militia swarms. as far as the world of tanks argument goes, there are things that need to be done to win that tanks cant do and in serious battles, corporations will run out of tanks to use (as long as they dont have unlimited funding, but thats up to the eve corps) and that is part of beating the other team. out of all the tanks i see being used, almost all are shield tanks and of all the av i see, almost all are swarms.....its like trying to beat scissors with paper. use the right av weapon for the job.

Dust isnt just about infantry. the american military forces have a navy and air force in addition to the army for a reason.

monkey huh?

tone it down a bit.

your the one not seeing things in the bigger picture here. the implementation of ewar will change things significantly.

in addition, vehicles are not meant to be on equal terms with infantry....infantry is the most base level of player that a corp can have on the field ingame and a tank is, well, a tank. if the corp is funded enough, and it is worth winning the battle, they increase their risk and throw some more of their weight around by bringing more expensive, powerful assets onto the field like aerial and ground armor and installations.

For those eve players, its similar to calling a capitol ship op because you cant easily destroy it with your small destroyer...

the scales there are much different but the comparison is the same. in a battle, yes av squads can pop armor and make them retreat, but if the enemy team has a tank squad on the field, dont sit there complaining about tanks being op, you need to get your own team's armor on the field!

if the us army was fighting a russian tank battalion, do you think we would try and destroy them with a platoon of infantry with rocket launchers?no, we would roll in our own armor. again, like i said the capitol ship isnt op, its just a capitol ship. you have to engage it accordingly. av guys will be able to approach their roles much differently when they can throw webifiers.

this doesnt work like BF where you can spawn as an engineer and take out a tank by yourself with 2 shots. this is total war.


edit: you can see how CCP is thinking along these lines since they are trying to get more people to engage tanks with tanks instead of everyone trying to use militia swarms. as far as the world of tanks argument goes, there are things that need to be done to win that tanks cant do and in serious battles, corporations will run out of tanks to use (as long as they dont have unlimited funding, but thats up to the eve corps) and that is part of beating the other team. out of all the tanks i see being used, almost all are shield tanks and of all the av i see, almost all are swarms.....its like trying to beat scissors with paper. use the right av weapon for the job.

Dust isnt just about infantry. the american military forces have a navy and air force in addition to the army for a reason.

Can we end this thread its pointless.

i agree

sure they may have reduced the damage but now i keep getting sniped by swarm launchers. i cant hit snipers so my best bet is to cower behind an objective. and also infantry can't get snipers either. although i like what they did with AV grenades: now no one is spaming them(probly because they're too far away though)

on the flip side, every time i roll out my tank i put 2 mil on the line, and i dont have a single point in anything else so i have to use it if i wanna take advantage of my points. that and everyone on the map hates me and wants me dead where an ar guy will only have to deal with the guys in front of him.

if av guys are scared to deal with me, awesome. no skin off my back.

the only times i have ever lost tanks with the exception of a few tank battles are to real av squads who work together and get av nades on me while shooting swarms from MULTIPLE directions, a very effective tactic that still eludes most av squads. av guys should realize that they shouldnt have to be scared of losing their fittings if they actually assault tanks in the right way and dont run straight into an enemy ar user.

i love when 3-4 av guys are shooting swarms at me in one direction...my gun just so happens ot aim in one direction and even has splash. if you get me from multiple directions, not so easy and i might have to retreat. but wait, what ever will i do when you can webbify me?! we'll just have to see at that point in time my frustrated friend...