DUST Search - Dancing Shotgun Fairies

mcbob mcbob wrote:

Fivetimes Infinity wrote:

mcbob mcbob wrote:

One of the 2 things I mainly play as is a scout with a shotgun- if you attack us at range, we're screwed because we die from slight taps.

If only. I have shot scouts at range many, many times and the shot, despite being properly aimed generating a shield flash, does zero damage. The only way I can somewhat reliably kill a moving scout is if they're moving mostly away or toward me. If they're traversing, it's a crap shoot. So it's not just strafing in people's face. In fact, it isn't even a moving issue entirely. Many times I've shot enemy snipers who are in scout suits and they do not die. Guys who're not moving, who're just sitting there shooting, and they'll take repeated hits and no damage will be incurred.

Seriously, when hit detection gets fixed, all of you people using scout suits are in for a huge surprise. I don't think you realize just how big an advantage the broken hit detection gives you.

Sounds to me like you suck. Most of the time, unless I manage to catch someone by surprise, I either die or nearly die.


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mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:02:00 - [1] - Quote Kengfa wrote: Omnipotent lilmamaj wrote: Hey scrub muffin, once hit detection is fixed, strafe speed will need to be raised. LOL, no it won't. Strafing speed is absolutely terrible. They should slow it down or add a 40% chance that you'll fall over and temporarily not be able to shoot. Chalk up another dumb idea. Strafe speed is fine, this coming from someone who rarely uses scout. It's the hit detection that is bugged. Note: I've experimented with the shotty/scout combo, it IS pretty ridiculous. The only time it's not too effective is in the large maps that have really wide open areas. Small and even medium sized maps have enough CQC areas for the scout/shotty combo to dominate.
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:35:00 - [2] - Quote mcbob mcbob wrote: Fivetimes Infinity wrote: mcbob mcbob wrote: One of the 2 things I mainly play as is a scout with a shotgun- if you attack us at range, we're screwed because we die from slight taps. If only. I have shot scouts at range many, many times and the shot, despite being properly aimed generating a shield flash, does zero damage. The only way I can somewhat reliably kill a moving scout is if they're moving mostly away or toward me. If they're traversing, it's a crap shoot. So it's not just strafing in people's face. In fact, it isn't even a moving issue entirely. Many times I've shot enemy snipers who are in scout suits and they do not die. Guys who're not moving, who're just sitting there shooting, and they'll take repeated hits and no damage will be incurred. Seriously, when hit detection gets fixed, all of you people using scout suits are in for a huge surprise. I don't think you realize just how big an advantage the broken hit detection gives you. Sounds to me like you suck. Most of the time, unless I manage to catch someone by surprise, I either die or nearly die. Actually, sounds like you suck. In the few times I put on a scout suit, I can go toe -to-toe with anybody. You just have to stay on the move. In CQC, with a shotty, I can go heads up against 2-3 ppl.
mikegunnz Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:16:00 - [3] - Quote Garma QUDA wrote: All Im reading is "no your wrong, CCP needs to listen to me" True, lol. I'll elaborate. One camp says scout suit speed is what is broken, and makes them dominate. (especially in cqc) The other camp says its the spotty hit detection. I'd argue it's the hit detection. If it were just a speed issue, that would suggest that the scout suit could strafe or run faster than other suits could track them...especially in cqc. Right now, it IS possible to track a scout in cqc using either a scout or assault suit. Heavies do have a problem, but it is SUPPOSED to be tough for them for balancing purposes. Those of us that argue the hit detection being the problem, CAN keep our crosshairs on target, but bullets just dont register hits. Some have even experimented and have had opponent scouts purposefully run THROUGH their line of fire, without taking damage. If you've caught a scout in cqc, in a narrow alley, and they just strafe thru your bullets, you know what i mean.