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JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 15:35:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:Half of the info about DUST from the devs happens in the IRC channel
Why cant they use the forums instead and do a weekly update and what they think may happen and what is being tweeked and if any of the problems the forums has brought if they agree with us or why they dont
That way we can discuss properly and also early on instead of reading a few lines from a channel then dealing with a massive shitstorm afterwards because we didnt know about it unless your in the channel
Dont give me NDA or some other BS either because the IRC channel is an outside channel where as the forums is run by you the devs
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JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:14:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:I want the info I don't want to hav to use some ***** third party chat room to get it. Don't need to listen to a bunch of kittens in IRC argue about random crap or post their tank boosted KDR,
I would rather that the info was given in the IRC AS WELL AS posted here,
I would also like the weekly feedback thread others are suggesting.
Its just complicating things, make these forums the focus and streamline it all.
Also the IRC is owned by a third party, its biased, my alliance mate got into a heated argument and then was banned from the channel because the mods didn't agree with him.
I dont need that crap, its a joke.
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JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:14:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:I want the info I don't want to hav to use some ***** third party chat room to get it. Don't need to listen to a bunch of kittens in IRC argue about random crap or post their tank boosted KDR,
I would rather that the info was given in the IRC AS WELL AS posted here,
I would also like the weekly feedback thread others are suggesting.
Its just complicating things, make these forums the focus and streamline it all.
Also the IRC is owned by a third party, its biased, my alliance mate got into a heated argument and then was banned from the channel because the mods didn't agree with him.
I dont need that crap, its a joke. If its gizmo then yea me and giz had a laugh about that, he messaged me and said he got banned because he was voicing his opinion on the core mechanics and the fanboys told him go back to MAG, last time i voiced my concerns there on core mechanics i got told to go back to a game i hate.....cod....so yea alot of fanboyism and ignorance at times on the IRC. Used to be there alot now i rarely stop by, waste of my time because anyone can see its mainly EVE centric ppl that congregate there and anytime u try to have a discussion from a console FPS perspective on what works for FPS and what works for the console community WHICH TBQH alot of them have zero to limited knowledge on since they dont have the in depth console community experience with how different communities on console work If all the info is being posted on IRC why even have forums? might as well lock the entire forum and be done with it. Got ppl in there sayin tanks are OK and AV nerf was fine when i was in there yesterday....my face was quickly introduced to my desk.
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JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well. IRC is a picky place, we did have a 'rude' questioner last night it wouldnt surprise me if he got a stern talking to by the channel moderators. The question and tone he asked is along the lines of the deleted forum threads come across usually. Alot of vitrol and undeserving welping.
Condencending questions are usually not welcomed during the QnA and espeically when there is an offical CCP forum post already covering the question too.
I can see why they're not welcomed either, ccp q and a session was taking time out of thier lunch break to pop in and say hi, sometimes they just talk and shoot the wind and post cat pictures, sometimes they ask how is the game for us today (which we all generally respond breaking as usual) If it turned into an exact mirror of the forums for QnA I can see CCP stopping entirely.
As for that a shout out to Grideris for being a good channel moderator and keeping the place 'civil'
In the end not a single IRCer is obligated to relay the information.
I specifically choose not to direct quote either for various reasons alot of people are proving.
I just felt that its rather unfair for IRC events to happen with not everyone present or awake even (this q an a was 2am my time zone) and only those there would know what happened.
DUST gonna flop b/c of an unofficial IRC channel that bans the opposite perspective. |
JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well sorry Im dont know about your backroad short cut because you refuse to share that information until then I am sticking to what the GPS tells me to go.
The GPS you programmed, deleted information from, and told where to go. Perfect metaphor. |
JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:JonnyAugust wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Well. IRC is a picky place, we did have a 'rude' questioner last night it wouldnt surprise me if he got a stern talking to by the channel moderators. The question and tone he asked is along the lines of the deleted forum threads come across usually. Alot of vitrol and undeserving welping.
Condencending questions are usually not welcomed during the QnA and espeically when there is an offical CCP forum post already covering the question too.
I can see why they're not welcomed either, ccp q and a session was taking time out of thier lunch break to pop in and say hi, sometimes they just talk and shoot the wind and post cat pictures, sometimes they ask how is the game for us today (which we all generally respond breaking as usual) If it turned into an exact mirror of the forums for QnA I can see CCP stopping entirely.
As for that a shout out to Grideris for being a good channel moderator and keeping the place 'civil'
In the end not a single IRCer is obligated to relay the information.
I specifically choose not to direct quote either for various reasons alot of people are proving.
I just felt that its rather unfair for IRC events to happen with not everyone present or awake even (this q an a was 2am my time zone) and only those there would know what happened. DUST gonna flop b/c of an unofficial IRC channel that bans the opposite perspective. Not my fault your boys came across and degraded to personal attacks instead of focusing on the issue. Also not my fault your boys never apologized and asked to get back in. its not hard. Seriously the way some of fpsers, act questions how much maturity there is as 3 year olds can control thier tempers much better than some of these guys. Its no wonder why some get banned.
You are in a dream world if you think gaming communities are to reflect standard business and practices. Listen to your "Holier than Though" rhetoric, turn your microscope on your own handling of the situation and you'll see you are no better than the people you degrade.
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JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And johnny you're only further proving why they dont want to forum post as often as we like. If you treat other forum posters like this how are you expected to treat the developers any better?
See? You would ban me now if they only gave you the authority, Nova Knife. lol case in point. |
JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 17:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:JonnyAugust wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:And johnny you're only further proving why they dont want to forum post as often as we like. If you treat other forum posters like this how are you expected to treat the developers any better? See? You would ban me now if they only gave you the authority, Nova Knife. lol case in point. I am not nova knife. My IRC name is Ironwolf. I dont know Girderis/Gridboss personally. I dont help him run any of the dust 514 fan sites. I certainly dont talk to him like hes my best friend. I am also the worlds worst tank driver. Lastly Nova Knife threatened me to ban me once over an argument on the NDA on a certain site. I have no modder rights on any IRC chanel, I wouldnt even know the commands. I certainly dont use chatzillia like nova knife does, my ip adress doenst match his either and hes clearly in another time zone from myself. You're pretty delusional to think I am the same as that FPS hardcore player.
Desperation is a stinky cologne. |
JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.01 18:46:00 -
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Shadows Maker wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote: If all the info is being posted on IRC why even have forums? might as well lock the entire forum and be done with it. Got ppl in there sayin tanks are OK and AV nerf was fine when i was in there yesterday....my face was quickly introduced to my desk.
I saw that too and i left clearly it HAV heaven maybe you haven't noticed but most of IRC dwellers are HAV users! coincidence? i doubt it
no suprise that all the EVE players want to drive an invincible vehicle and never develope the hand held weapons. TANKS514 and DROPSHIP514 and FAIL514 |
JonnyAugust
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Posted - 2012.09.02 02:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Keep it civil people.
There is an offical channel ccp has made #Dust-514
The problem is its open to the public anyone is allowed here.
The NDA one is temporary, and is going only to last as long as the NDA once its lifted expected the reigns and usual conversations to xfer over to the public channel.
Also remember they are humans.
Average posting time span of most devs 30 seconds. time frame.
Average content of post in irc, cat pictures, status update on servers, joke of the day, teasing with soon(tm). QnA voulneteer and forum post concencus sessions are closer to 5% of total Dev content on IRC.
The channel is operated by probably the biggest dust 514 fan Ive seen anywhere, but he doesnt have time to manage us either and it seems ccp mostly hijacked the channel for the duration of the testing from him.
They're very busy most dont ever talk during thier workshift ever. Usually its around lunch breaks or what little breathing time one or two might have during a trip somewhere.
Some ccp employees and voulenetters in the channel are eve side and are just as cluesless as the rest of us and are no better than the average tester in terms of what they know is what is being worked on dust 514 side.
So you're saying they are too busy to chat and a forum where they can read things later and type at their own conenience would be a good idea? They should make a foru...oh wait.
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