Gridboss
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Posted - 2012.09.02 09:22:00 -
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Ok. Seems people are getting a bit worked up over IRC. Let me lay out some stuff.
#DUST514-beta was born in earlier days of the beta. Back when there were very few testers, skirmish had two stages, swarm launchers were beyond OP against everything and seeing a tank was a rare sight to behold. It was difficult in those days to have real time communication with each other, as DUST lacked proper communication channels at that stage - even during games voice was unreliable (even more so than now). So to help everyone communicate, I made #DUST514-beta, a NDA covered companion to the already existing public #DUST514 channel.
As far as the bans go, this is the current banlist for #DUST514-beta on irc.coldfront.net:
"DUST514-beta ban list wrote:frozen.coldfront.net banned *!*@coldfront-F987815C.dhcp.insightbb.com from #DUST514-beta on Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:19:15 AM. [Remove]
frozen.coldfront.net banned GreasyFinger!*@* from #DUST514-beta on Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:19:15 AM. [Remove]
===End of #DUST514-beta ban list.
Both entries correspond to GreasyFinger, who was banned for excessive profanity. If you have issues with a moderator's actions, talk to me, either using IRC or by emailing me ( [email protected] ). Make sure you include chat logs.
As for the issue of devs posting information on IRC but not on the forums: I actually agree. Completely. There should be a number of stickies as others have suggested with things like known issues (more than what the patch notes have), balance concerns, features being worked on currently, and what bugs they have fixed internally but haven't pushed out yet. For whatever reasons, CCP has not done this yet. I don't know why, you will have to ask them about it.
But that's not a reason to not have devs on IRC. There are some things that are much easier to do on IRC, such as asking for specific conditions to help try to replicate a bug right there and then.
I can also tell you right now, the forums are getting plenty of reading from the devs. They might not respond to every single post, but they're certainly reading them. You can all do your part to help them by not posting crap (not referring to this thread specifically - but you all know what I mean) so they can spend more time reading (and possibly replying) and less time digging.
Most people won't see me around in game as I tend to play on the Australian battlecluster as I live in Australia. This combined with University and timezone displacement means that you don't always seem me around. DUST514.org is very quiet, mostly because it's a public site and as such, we can't post anything under the NDA. Hopefully CAST 514 coming back should help to give it some much needed action.
As far as the IRC access thread goes, I don't post straight after every single post for access. To do so would be a little over the top, and as such, I only post once or twice a page. However, I (or another moderator) do grant access as soon as we read the new posts. Best way to check is to message us directly on IRC ( /query Grideris ) - either we'll tell you that you have access, or we'll give it to you right there and then (assuming you've made a post and registered your nick on IRC).
Against the accusations of bias: I really, honestly, can not see what you're talking about. I virtually never clamp down on certain subjects, and I have never, ever seriously kicked someone for having a differing opinion. I have never heard of moderators doing anything like that either (and if they are, you should be emailing me chatlogs). As far as everyone saying we're a pro-HAV camp, for the discussion with the devs, it was exactly the opposite: tanks are have having it too easy versus infantry. I think the belief that we're all super pro-HAV stems from the fact that we have some very well known good tank drivers, and that when someone asked why the AV nerf, they didn't get an answer.
No, no one elected me. I am not a designated community representative in any official capacity. There are no designated community representatives of any kind for DUST. My only real claim to fame is staying up late at night for years, working away to keep anyone that would listen to me informed about DUST. I set up channels of communication between players, encouraged discussion, wrote about what news I heard (and extrapolated the rest). This is one of those channels. It is not official any way you spin it. It's the equivalent to going to an event somewhere with CCP devs in attendance and talking to them. It just runs all the time.
TL;DR : IRC is not changing. But CCP could certainly post more on the forums. |