DUST Search - Why the IRC?

Ignatius Crumwald wrote:

Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:

But they need to be less like children if they want CCP to go out of their way.

I've not been on IRC in months and months and i'm in the same situation as everyone else on the forums, more information and feedback would be nice but it's never going to happen if all CCP see on the forums are children bickering and fighting and crying all the time.

You all need to sperg less and conduct yourselves better and less like spoiled brats and then maybe you'd get the feedback you'd like.

There never was much feedback in the forums. Most of us learned in game from the GM's we played along side. The state of the forum has little to do with the level of communication here. That has been a pure PR calculation thus far.

The simple fact is people on IRC are happy with the communication so far and many people on the forums aren't.

Now the Devs can choose to hide behind people like you who come in and call the unwashed forum plebs whiners and crybabies or they can reach out to them as well as they do to those on IRC and make more money for CCP in the long run.


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Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 00:10:00 - [1] - Quote I didn't even get past the first few posts in this thread. At the end of the day you all need to grow up, you're here to test the game. The Dev's and CCP have invited you to help them test, getting to play the game early, prior to release is a privelige. You shouldn't be complaining that you "have a life" and can't spend the time on IRC to keep up to date with things. If you don't have that level of time to dedicate to you're participation in the beta event, don't go on IRC, i don't. But to sit there and criticize how CCP are running the show is very disrespectful and show's just how childish a lot of you are. They are doing the best that they can and you can't ask any more of them. If they spent more time on the forums or even on IRC you'd all be bitching about how they should spend more time fixing bugs and less time chatting with the community. They can't win no matter what they do if you're all going to be so immature. Maybe if you all grew up, started talking like adults and working together to test the game in a more mature fashion they would make more of an attempt to interact with people on the forums. A large portion of you can't even use grammar or even spell words correctly and all you do is troll and flame or sperg and cry when someone you feel the game "NEEDS" or "MUST HAVE" is not implemented because it's not the direction that CCP want to take the game. What you all need to remember is that CCP have a road map of this game that spans years, a lot of what you've said may even be on that map already, it's just not on the plan for initial stages of release. They are doing the best they can and are spending as much of their FREE TIME as they can on the forums to keep us in the loop. This forum is for Beta Testing feedback, not crying like a child.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 00:25:00 - [2] - Quote But they need to be less like children if they want CCP to go out of their way. I've not been on IRC in months and months and i'm in the same situation as everyone else on the forums, more information and feedback would be nice but it's never going to happen if all CCP see on the forums are children bickering and fighting and crying all the time. You all need to sperg less and conduct yourselves better and less like spoiled brats and then maybe you'd get the feedback you'd like. EDIT: And how the hell is that a smug post?... You're clearly illiterate.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 00:50:00 - [3] - Quote Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: But they need to be less like children if they want CCP to go out of their way. I've not been on IRC in months and months and i'm in the same situation as everyone else on the forums, more information and feedback would be nice but it's never going to happen if all CCP see on the forums are children bickering and fighting and crying all the time. You all need to sperg less and conduct yourselves better and less like spoiled brats and then maybe you'd get the feedback you'd like. There never was much feedback in the forums. Most of us learned in game from the GM's we played along side. The state of the forum has little to do with the level of communication here. That has been a pure PR calculation thus far. The simple fact is people on IRC are happy with the communication so far and many people on the forums aren't. Now the Devs can choose to hide behind people like you who come in and call the unwashed forum plebs whiners and crybabies or they can reach out to them as well as they do to those on IRC and make more money for CCP in the long run. Read my post again, i'm saying i agree with the poor communication but that if it's to be corrected people need to go about it in a much better way than their current child like behavior. Are you saying you think they are going about it the right way?...
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 00:55:00 - [4] - Quote I'm totally in agreement with what you're saying, but i think people need to seriously tone down the way they are expressing themselves and keep it all in context and not to get all emotional and pissed about it because that's only going to make things worse and spark huge shite throwing contests.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:02:00 - [5] - Quote Yes they should, CCP didn't have to offer Beta access in any way shape or form, i admit it;s a very good source of free feedback for them so they are gaining a lot more out of this but we're still getting involved with things and able to enjoy the game prior to release at the same time. The Dev's are still very hard at work making the game, they have family's etc, while we're playing the game after a hard day at work and demanding reply's and feedback on the forums those guys are still at work, testing corp battles in what is literally the middle of the night there. Give them at least a little breathing room, i guarantee you that you'll get more feedback in a few weeks once their workloads eased off a little and the forums start being a lot less like a cesspit.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:03:00 - [6] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: As another reminder #Dust-514 is CCP controled and likely to become the primary channel once NDA is lifted. #Dust-514 beta is temporary. Also CCP hands out more information over twitter and face book yet no compalints about that either? Twitter is actually a major source of info we in the CFC use for all sorts of shenanigans including the recent FW exploits.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:29:00 - [7] - Quote Again i agree with the pair of you, but my original comment wasn't exactly aimed at you two either, for a start you can both string a sentence together but i think you both knew that and just jumped on me. heh.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:37:00 - [8] - Quote Next time someone from CCP is in IRC can you ask for a bigger ISD presence on these forums? Normally i complain about ISD on the EVEO forums but i think they could be a hell of a lot of use here.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:39:00 - [9] - Quote Ignatius Crumwald wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Again i agree with the pair of you, but my original comment wasn't exactly aimed at you two either, for a start you can both string a sentence together but i think you both knew that and just jumped on me. heh. Because to an extent I agree with many of them and want to see them get what they're asking for here. But in the real world, people who act like a lot of people here have been acting get arrested and thrown in a cell for a night, why should they be treated any differently here because it's the internet?.. They should still know how to approach people and talk about a subject in a reasonable manner, we'd all get much better results that way.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 01:45:00 - [10] - Quote I've not seen any ISD but i really think it wouldn't go amiss sometimes. I spend a lot of time trolling on EVEO and stirring the highsec carebears up and get annoyed with ISD there but here, we're genuinely trying to do something and it's gotta be hard for the CCP team to drudge though all the crap on the forums here to actually find the good posts.

Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.02 02:06:00 - [11] - Quote I'm sure they still read the forums a lot even if they don't always post. They are prob a lot more aware of things than people are giving them credit for.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.03 16:13:00 - [12] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well if I am going to keep getting threads like this every time I relay the information I am going to stop posting them. I am trying to gather questions for next time and all you guys do is complain that you cant get into IRC, well if you cant get into IRC when it be time ore technical reasons give the information and questions to people who can. That is just it, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO! Instead of letting the players GUESS where and when things and information happens, in a CLOSED beta, the DEVS should grow the kitten up and USE the media they them selves told us WE must use. THE FORUMS! Why have i added you to my contacts list? I can't work it out, are you from SA? or GF.COM?
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.03 18:51:00 - [13] - Quote Dewie Cheecham wrote: Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Why have i added you to my contacts list? I can't work it out, are you from SA? or GF.COM? I have no idea. And it is besides the point here. So you're not a goon? maybe a member of HBC?... I'm trying to work out why i added such a massive shitposter on my contacts list. Your posting is really, really, really bad.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.04 00:33:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Well its much harder to be two people in IRC, they can ping you easily and or can tell if you are proxy boxing. You should know you can't use logic and common sense on the forums by now.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.09.04 01:02:00 - [15] - Quote I think a lot of the population here is too stupid even for that to work.