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SuperMido
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:25:00 -
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Look at PlanetSide 2, its been in Close Beta for about a month if not less, and they lifted the NDA today. Dust 514 has been in Closed Beta since April, and its not even "close beta" anymore when you give ANYONE the ability to join by buying a Merc. Pack, or going to the PSHome and obtaining a key. Yet, we still have a NDA...RIDICULOUS if you ask me. |
Cpl Quartz
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:29:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:Look at PlanetSide 2, its been in Close Beta for about a month if not less, and they lifted the NDA today. Dust 514 has been in Closed Beta since April, and its not even "close beta" anymore when you give ANYONE the ability to join by buying a Merc. Pack, or going to the PSHome and obtaining a key. Yet, we still have a NDA...RIDICULOUS if you ask me.
yeah bunch of idiot greedy twats.
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Noric C-8
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.31 22:49:00 -
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It's time for Ccp to lift the NDA. The nay sayers have had enough time to slander this game. It's time for the players who like this game to be allowed to voice their opinion. To make 'how to' videos, etc. |
Icy Tiger
496
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:18:00 -
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It's nowhere near finished. Leave the NDA. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:36:00 -
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The game is still too sh**ty to warrant a logical NDA lift! It'll get ripped to shreds out n the open in its current state! CCP obviously knows that.  |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
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Posted - 2012.08.31 23:51:00 -
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Saiibot wrote:The game is still too sh**ty to warrant a logical NDA lift! It'll get ripped to shreds out n the open in its current state! CCP obviously knows that.
Oh, another thread post bashing CCP. Threw me for a loop with how unpredictable you are. /sarcasm |
SuperMido
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2012.09.01 02:22:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:Saiibot wrote:The game is still too sh**ty to warrant a logical NDA lift! It'll get ripped to shreds out n the open in its current state! CCP obviously knows that. Oh, another thread post bashing CCP. Threw me for a loop with how unpredictable you are. /sarcasm
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm starting to agree with him. Dust 514 is a bit too shi.tty right now, I was and still am hoping the best for it. But its taking so long, and there are way too many problems with the core gameplay mechanics.
Now I'm not talking balance, glitches, or bugs. But I'm talking movement, responsiveness, hit detection, etc. I'm looking at the PlanetSide 2 beta, and I'm seeing way too much improvement being done much quicker. And the game is looking and playing almost like a retail version right now. And its been in Beta for just 3 weeks, still months to go before it done.
I've been playing this beta since April, I've seen lots of additions, and improvements to the general gameplay, but NOT for the core gameplay mechanics. At this point, I'm not really sure if this is because of CCP's lack of experience in the FPS genre, or the fact that the PS3 maybe too shi.tty for what CCP is trying accomplish, or that CCP is taking it too slowly.
I still hope this game succeeds, and I'll keep playing it till launch to see how its going to change. But if Dust 514 launches like it is right now with the broken mechanics, and all the other issues. Its gonna be a fail, and I would really hate to see this game fail because its got such an amazing concept.
And back to the main point, I kinda see why CCP is keeping the NDA.. |
Fivetimes Infinity
Immobile Infantry
1086
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Posted - 2012.09.01 02:36:00 -
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Planetside 2 gets patched quickly because there's no Sony patch confirmation business where SOE needs to send their patch off to be tested by someone else to make sure it won't blow up the PS3 when they release it. So patching is naturally going to be slower.
The NDA exists to prevent people from hearing about the game when it's too unfinished to be good publicity. Right now, Planetside 2 is in a good place. Two weeks ago, it wasn't at all. The game ran horribly for me, you died everytime you spawned, etc etc. But they fixed it up and now it's really playable, so the NDA came down.
Hopefully the next Dust build will be like that. Hopefully the invalid fit bug, the hit detection, the disconnects, the resets, the infinite loading, and all the other major, show-stopping, terrible problems that people curious about the game do not want to hear is wrong with the game will be fixed. If they are fixed, then maybe the NDA will drop. Until then, the NDA will remain.
That said, I do agree that selling beta access at this point doesn't seem right to me. |
Mr Funless
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
191
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Posted - 2012.09.01 03:40:00 -
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Noric C-8 wrote:It's time for Ccp to lift the NDA. The nay sayers have had enough time to slander this game. It's time for the players who like this game to be allowed to voice their opinion. To make 'how to' videos, etc.
There would be more "nay sayers" slamming the game if the NDA was lifted. With good reason too. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.09.01 03:53:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:Look at PlanetSide 2, its been in Close Beta for about a month if not less, and they lifted the NDA today. Dust 514 has been in Closed Beta since April, and its not even "close beta" anymore when you give ANYONE the ability to join by buying a Merc. Pack, or going to the PSHome and obtaining a key. Yet, we still have a NDA...RIDICULOUS if you ask me.
You need to realize, that PL2 already has a massive fan base, people already know what to expect. It's a lot easier for them to lift the NDA because when all the videos start showing up, the PL fan base will start to talk about what they like/don't like in relation to PL1.
CCP can't lift the NDA yet because Dust has no following, no fan base. If they allowed videos and screens to be put up everywhere on such an unfinished product, it would get bashed horribly and come launch, not enough people will try it. I'd say wait til november, it'll probably be released by then. I'm still hoping for a 2013 release anyway. |
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TEBOW BAGGINS
FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED
TACNET
549
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Posted - 2012.09.01 05:20:00 -
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lol SOE...
yea.. great company.. with a real outstanding reputation.
give them 6-18 months and Smedley will trash his new game with "new game experiences" soon enough.. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.09.01 06:00:00 -
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The Polish Hammer wrote:Saiibot wrote:The game is still too sh**ty to warrant a logical NDA lift! It'll get ripped to shreds out n the open in its current state! CCP obviously knows that. Oh, another thread post bashing CCP. Threw me for a loop with how unpredictable you are. /sarcasm
I only speak the truth. If only people like you were'n't so biased you would see that. |
Saiibot
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2012.09.01 06:06:00 -
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SuperMido wrote:The Polish Hammer wrote:Saiibot wrote:The game is still too sh**ty to warrant a logical NDA lift! It'll get ripped to shreds out n the open in its current state! CCP obviously knows that. Oh, another thread post bashing CCP. Threw me for a loop with how unpredictable you are. /sarcasm Well, I'm sorry, but I'm starting to agree with him. Dust 514 is a bit too shi.tty right now, I was and still am hoping the best for it. But its taking so long, and there are way too many problems with the core gameplay mechanics. Now I'm not talking balance, glitches, or bugs. But I'm talking movement, responsiveness, hit detection, etc. I'm looking at the PlanetSide 2 beta, and I'm seeing way too much improvement being done much quicker. And the game is looking and playing almost like a retail version right now. And its been in Beta for just 3 weeks, still months to go before it done. I've been playing this beta since April, I've seen lots of additions, and improvements to the general gameplay, but NOT for the core gameplay mechanics. At this point, I'm not really sure if this is because of CCP's lack of experience in the FPS genre, or the fact that the PS3 maybe too shi.tty for what CCP is trying accomplish, or that CCP is taking it too slowly. I still hope this game succeeds, and I'll keep playing it till launch to see how its going to change. But if Dust 514 launches like it is right now with the broken mechanics, and all the other issues. Its gonna be a fail, and I would really hate to see this game fail because its got such an amazing concept. And back to the main point, I kinda see why CCP is keeping the NDA..
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