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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:46:00 -
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uruz7 fish wrote:oh yeah thats right, 200 yr aniversary of Canuckistan winning! we should re-enact that for a dust event, give everyone skinned dropsuits so they look like era uniforms!
Nobody really lost the War of 1812 except for the Natives, who were used and then the promises they got for helping were broken and they were cast aside. "Canada" didn't exist at the time, but the British colonial militia was a small minority of the British forces involved in the war. More significantly, no colonials took part in the Burning of Washington. The myth that "Canada burned down the White House" is just that. The Canadian government spending many millions commemorating this war is essentially just nationalistic propaganda. |
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Posted - 2012.08.30 18:14:00 -
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Soleire wrote:Many millions spent commemorating this war? What the heck are you talking about? How come I've never heard of this in 30 years of living in this country?
Well, partly because the bicentennial is right now and not sometime up to 30 years ago, and partly because we've only had Dear Leader in charge for a short time. And I guess partly because you don't like to read the news.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/14/pol-war-of-1812-bicentennial-federal-events.html
We're spending more than $28 million commemorating this bullshit, meanwhile all sorts of good programs are being cut to save money. The Conservatives are a joke for a lot of reasons, but being the party of "fiscal responsibility" while they waste millions on 1812 nonsense and billions on fighter jets makes that particular line about them such an obvious lie. |
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Nate Silverley wrote:That's not correct, and it's not a myth. Canada did exist at the time, but not under the current constitution. You had Upper Canada and Lower Canada, and British Colonial forces were also accompanied by the French Canadian militia. US President Jefferson thought conquering Canada would be a mere formality and eventually ate his socks roasted, as the British forces burned to the ground every single major building in Washington DC on August 24 1814, including the Congress Library, the Treasury and the White House.
Canada did not exist as a unified entity until 1867. Before that it was simply the "British North America colonies", aka. "the Canadas". Afterward, the colonies were unified into an actual Dominion under the sovereignty of the British Empire.
And yes, British forces, from Britain, burned Washington. I just know many Canadians like to pretend that it was Canadians (British colonists) who did it, but not one was there. It was 100% people from Great Britain who did the deed.
I am very tired of this kind of chest-thumping. It's dumb enough we're glorifying a dumb war fought 200 years ago over nothing at all, even worse that we're pretending we played some decisive role. For the British it was a distraction from their actual war in Europe, for the Americans it was a tiny footnote in their long history of waging war. The only people who care are, ironically, the people least involved. |
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Elijah Revan wrote:Please stop discussing polotics.... i get tired of flame wars about silly things like this, America Canada and the UK are extremely close allies these days, the past doesn't matter. In my opinion i can't stand to think of countries.... why can't people just get along and accept other peoples ways of life, religions, and cultures. <--- from a US American citizen. ( and no, im not fat XD )
I am a Canadian saying Canada's role in something is overstated. This isn't about UK vs. Canada or whatever. It's about Canadians being honest in the midst of terrible money-wasting by our own government to promote a lie. |
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