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Van Aewulf
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:49:00 -
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You're new to CCP products aren't you? As a long term player of EVE since 2004, I can tell you that CCP takes a notoriously long time to fix bugs. Why? I don't know. I really wish I had a good explanation. They're exceptionally fast at fixing exploits though so it really makes me wonder sometimes.
That being said, when they do finally fix their bugs, their fixes are usually spot on and never happen again. |
Van Aewulf
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:08:00 -
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Dewie Cheecham wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:You're new to CCP products aren't you? As a long term player of EVE since 2004, I can tell you that CCP takes a notoriously long time to fix bugs. Why? I don't know. I really wish I had a good explanation. They're exceptionally fast at fixing exploits though so it really makes me wonder sometimes.
That being said, when they do finally fix their bugs, their fixes are usually spot on and never happen again. Just because you may not agree with what I say, you can't assume I'm new at EVE or CCP. There is a difference in this though. This is not a small, trivial bug. This is a major, game breaking, and potentially harmful to the hardware bug. Those we really haven't seen in EVE, and when we see bugs that are really game breaking, CCP tend to be a little more expedient about it.
You say that like you took offense, cool down man. :)
I think that your reaction is a little over the top friend. I've seen you in almost a dozen threads screaming like the sky is falling about this issue. If people's Playstation's were breaking, they'd be all over it like boot.ini (which, I may add, is counter to your: This is a major, game breaking, and potentially harmful to the hardware bug. Those we really haven't seen in EVE)
Stop sweating your PS3, it'll be fine. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:11:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:
Lets just say the crashes had been replaced with this line of code. ( time to bring forth the CCP menace)
DELETE/BOOT.INI
i know for a fact CCP would poop the boxershorts they have on and they would fix it right away.
so now tell me a long term 2006 eve player why they have not fixed the hardware crashing.
that alone is just as bad as telling an eve client to frazzle your boot.ini and we all know what that does to your computer systems OS.
GFX problems in eve online, fixed right away with hotfix and patching. but yet again this hardware damaging bug/s are left to run riot. exploits, ship bumping, etc etc all fixed right of the bat. but with dust they to bothered with adding more broken bloody stuff.
SOON does not cut the mustard anymore we had enough.
ITS BETA, does not count anymore, stuff needs fixing but they fail to lift fingers or even admit the massive problems we found as bug hunters.
More content, hmmm where did i hear that before , oh yeah in eve-online, then CCP woke up from Dreamland.
they want dedicated beta testers, but all they are doing is forcing them away from testing dust514.
the longer it goes on the more this forum fills with " game crashed"" invalid bug"" ps3 blown up" threads
not very nice for new betatesters to dust to have to read and find no action from the makers of dust CCP
Whoa partner. If closed testing bothers you that much maybe you should find something else to do until the final release is out. Then the Beta excuse won't count anymore. |
Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:43:00 -
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Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:Van Aewulf wrote:Mr TamiyaCowboy wrote:
Lets just say the crashes had been replaced with this line of code. ( time to bring forth the CCP menace)
DELETE/BOOT.INI
i know for a fact CCP would poop the boxershorts they have on and they would fix it right away.
so now tell me a long term 2006 eve player why they have not fixed the hardware crashing.
that alone is just as bad as telling an eve client to frazzle your boot.ini and we all know what that does to your computer systems OS.
GFX problems in eve online, fixed right away with hotfix and patching. but yet again this hardware damaging bug/s are left to run riot. exploits, ship bumping, etc etc all fixed right of the bat. but with dust they to bothered with adding more broken bloody stuff.
SOON does not cut the mustard anymore we had enough.
ITS BETA, does not count anymore, stuff needs fixing but they fail to lift fingers or even admit the massive problems we found as bug hunters.
More content, hmmm where did i hear that before , oh yeah in eve-online, then CCP woke up from Dreamland.
they want dedicated beta testers, but all they are doing is forcing them away from testing dust514.
the longer it goes on the more this forum fills with " game crashed"" invalid bug"" ps3 blown up" threads
not very nice for new betatesters to dust to have to read and find no action from the makers of dust CCP
Whoa partner. If closed testing bothers you that much maybe you should find something else to do until the final release is out. Then the Beta excuse won't count anymore. why should i wait till final release. i mean if they cant fix stuff now whats going to say they will later. i mean 8 reboots in 3.5hrs. if this was eve-online beta that shizzle would have been sorted, server would be taken down and message posted to keep updated. i really dont know if ccp know if they are coming or going, i should not whooa there, thats something CCP should be doing. take a stand back look at this problem and get it fixed. not brag about silly content added or some fancy dev event they got running. right now and most will agree, dust 514 is becoming un-testable with these current system crashes and server hangs. yeah it may sound like i am bossy, but i care more about dust being something and not just another FPS failfest. Dust has to work or it taints eve-online " oh yeah that game that tried fps and scr3wed up lulz, noobs". CCP can do well better than they have done, and to be honest it is about time they showed they can fix these problems off the bat right away, so testing can still be done with all taking part, not a handful here and there.
Yea but behaving this way isn't going to make them more amenable to discussing the subject matter. Furthermore, they can hide behind the NDA and Beta testing because they haven't released the game yet. Game development takes time... if this were an open beta I would be more apt to agree with you, but the fact is that it's still closed testing.
If you want a game that plays like a stable, normal game wait for release. I honestly don't know what else to tell you. Getting on CCP's back isn't going to make them work any harder. The only reason EVE gets such attention is because they will organize and cancel subscription money. That's a great deal of CCP's revenue right there... organized efforts of protest literally threaten their livelihood. Dust 514 is a F2P fps that represents almost none of their actual revenue right now. They can take their time with Dust because it's in development... EVE is a released product in ongoing support. These are very different states of software development.
It will get fixed, and all I am suggesting is that if it isn't fast enough for you then maybe find something else to do until it is fixed. They will fix it in due time... but it will take time, and nothing you can do will change that. The sooner you accept that, the easier it will be for you.
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Van Aewulf
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:04:00 -
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Something that helped my problems immensely was doing port forwarding on my router. I get occasional crashes but nothing like I used to. Just FYI. |
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