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        |  expendable teammate 285
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:07:00 -
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 When the full game is finally out and all the integration is finally added in between games. Could a DUST 514 player give their extra ISK to friends or corps in EVE?
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        |  Icy Tiger
 
 496
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:13:00 -
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 Lol. EvE players have billions of ISK. We make about million after 10-15 games. Good luck supporting them.
 
 Get yo mom outta day ghetto.
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        |  DTsoy Smith
 Osmon Surveillance
 Caldari State
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:20:00 -
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 Extra ISK in Dust 514?
 
 Not the way things are looking right now, bro. lol
 
 Not that it's a bad thing, I like that you know you can only order 1 or 2 tanks instead of 50 (the way it was before).
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        |  Ire's thug
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 272
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:24:00 -
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 There is no trading between eve and dust players and.according to the CSM minutes there wont ne any of that at launch or for yhe first year. They are afraid of another economy meltdown because of the differences between eve and dust.. also it has been said that for the first year it might just be faction.warfare... this makes me sad if this is true... imo the main reason of interst in this game was the integration of dust into the eve universe. If this is true wake me when dust is actually part of eve not just a self contained biosphere floating on an eve server.
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        |  Fivetimes Infinity
 Immobile Infantry
 
 1086
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:28:00 -
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 Integration is the main draw for most people, but if you just opened the door to the EVE markets the Dust economy would be instantly destroyed. The mercenary aspect of this game, where you fight for ISK and you are reluctant to use your best stuff all the time because losing it is a blow to your wallet, would be totally out the window if people could trade billions of EVE ISK to a Dust character. It would be terrible for the game, and that's why they need to handle it very carefully.
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        |  expendable teammate 285
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:35:00 -
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 Fivetimes Infinity wrote:Integration is the main draw for most people, but if you just opened the door to the EVE markets the Dust economy would be instantly destroyed. The mercenary aspect of this game, where you fight for ISK and you are reluctant to use your best stuff all the time because losing it is a blow to your wallet, would be totally out the window if people could trade billions of EVE ISK to a Dust character. It would be terrible for the game, and that's why they need to handle it very carefully. 
 
 wasn't that one of the two main reasons for Dust in the first place?
 
 1.Dust provides ground wars and at least slightly effects EVE's ladscape.... I doubt actions in dust will have any major effects in EVE. I just can't see there being epic wars for planets like corporations in EVE fighting for sectors.
 
 2. EVE players/corporations funding ground wars. After all that's why we are "mercs". I wanted to play dust for the "corporate" sponsorships. Some of the biggest corporations in EVE could dump 5% of their ISK in their own little DUST squad and outfit them with the best weapons/gear ISK can buy.
 
 plus even if CCP limits that, then they could sell ISK and then outfit their units with AUR bought equipment.
 
 
 To combat this.. the game should be more like TF2. Sidegrades, not direct upgrades.
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        |  Veigar Mordekaiser
 Royal Uhlans
 Amarr Empire
 
 676
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 19:59:00 -
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 expendable teammate 285 wrote:1.Dust provides ground wars and at least slightly effects EVE's ladscape.... I doubt actions in dust will have any major effects in EVE. I just can't see there being epic wars for planets like corporations in EVE fighting for sectors. If I recall correctly, I think planets are going to have an affect on Sov now; though I am not positive.
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        |  expendable teammate 285
 Crux Special Tasks Group
 Gallente Federation
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 20:12:00 -
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 Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:expendable teammate 285 wrote:1.Dust provides ground wars and at least slightly effects EVE's ladscape.... I doubt actions in dust will have any major effects in EVE. I just can't see there being epic wars for planets like corporations in EVE fighting for sectors. If I recall correctly, I think planets are going to have an affect on Sov now; though I am not positive.  
 Well that's what I figured too. Dust players have to have a effect on the EVE universe otherwise it's just another petty FPS and in that case Starhawk is easier to get into.
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        |  Shiro Mokuzan
 
 220
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 20:17:00 -
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 Ire's thug wrote:There is no trading between eve and dust players and.according to the CSM minutes there wont ne any of that at launch or for yhe first year. They are afraid of another economy meltdown because of the differences between eve and dust.. also it has been said that for the first year it might just be faction.warfare... this makes me sad if this is true... imo the main reason of interst in this game was the integration of dust into the eve universe. If this is true wake me when dust is actually part of eve not just a self contained biosphere floating on an eve server. 
 Well, faction warfare is part of EVE also. It's just kind of an system where you fight for NPC factions and it has support for it built into the game. It's a somewhat controlled form of PvP, as opposed to most other forms in EVE, in which pretty much anything goes and any order is enforced entirely buy player factions.
 
 So there could be integration between the EVE and DUST sides of factional warfare fairly early on.
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        |  Ire's thug
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 272
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 20:31:00 -
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 Shiro Mokuzan wrote:Ire's thug wrote:There is no trading between eve and dust players and.according to the CSM minutes there wont ne any of that at launch or for yhe first year. They are afraid of another economy meltdown because of the differences between eve and dust.. also it has been said that for the first year it might just be faction.warfare... this makes me sad if this is true... imo the main reason of interst in this game was the integration of dust into the eve universe. If this is true wake me when dust is actually part of eve not just a self contained biosphere floating on an eve server. Well, faction warfare is part of EVE also. It's just kind of an system where you fight for NPC factions and it has support for it built into the game. It's a somewhat controlled form of PvP, as opposed to most other forms in EVE, in which pretty much anything goes and any order is enforced entirely buy player factions. So there could be integration between the EVE and DUST sides of factional warfare fairly early on. 
 This is exsactly why my friends in eve couldnt care less about dust. Factional warfare. Whats in it for the eve players? We wont be fighting over eve player planets and the reward for helping a dust player? Nothing as of yet. In a universe filled with bounty pithy factional warfare = penuts. Not my words but from the mouths of eve players.
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        |  FatalFlaw V1
 ISK Faucet Industries
 
 76
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 20:32:00 -
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 I'll be disappointed if they prevent isk transfer from Eve to Dust. I thought it was an intended isk sink that could help the Eve economy. If there is no industry in dust at launch then most of the market will be seeded anyway, so there is no real market there anyway aside from players trading salvage.
 
 I suspect they are limiting Eve->Dust isk because more people will burn AUR on weapons and gear if nobody is bankrolled by Eve characters. How does it not destroy the Dust economy if players buy a ton of AUR and are able to avoid spending isk? It could have just as much of an impact as unlimited isk, but AUR is money in CCP's wallet and this little project probably has to show a net profit for what they are paying to create it.
 
 Unlimited isk in Dust doesn't mean a whole lot, nothing is that far out of reach once you've played for a little while. That's why I find this whole fragile Dust market collapse story to be BS. The bottom line is they want people to use up AUR on more than just boosters.
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        |  tribal wyvern
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 673
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 23:27:00 -
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 Well the option to transfer isk from eve to dust mercs is already there, its just not working right now (as it was stated in the sisi notes) so I'm sure the option will be added to enable dust to transfer isk to eve, but I don't see why anyone would want to do that as the isk dust merc make will not even be 5% of what eve pilots make. But yes it will be possible
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        |  Mr Funless
 Seituoda Taskforce Command
 Caldari State
 
 191
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 23:46:00 -
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 Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:expendable teammate 285 wrote:1.Dust provides ground wars and at least slightly effects EVE's ladscape.... I doubt actions in dust will have any major effects in EVE. I just can't see there being epic wars for planets like corporations in EVE fighting for sectors. If I recall correctly, I think planets are going to have an affect on Sov now; though I am not positive.  
 
 Read the Minutes. Planets won't have an effect on sov.
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        |  Gyrnius
 ZionTCD
 Legacy Rising
 
 65
 
 
      | Posted - 2012.08.29 23:50:00 -
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 I tried transferring Gyrnius 20m from one of my chars in Eve on sisi - still hasn't shown up :(
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