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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:

Grezkev wrote:

Arbor Viridanus wrote:

I would suggest that you NOT categorize alliances for people. It makes it seem like you're just making things up, which is not good for a news corp.

Totally agree, I guess we shouldn't make it come off that way.

It is good however to have general knowledge about how certain organizations are setup. If you'll notice the list I gave isn't much different than you'd get taught in a sociological, government, or history class:

1) They are basic setups of government that have existed in history (Such as the Roman Empire, the Confederate United States [though that is a bad example since I said they accept diversity], the Federal United States, and loose federations such as the United Nations)

2) They are general enough to the point that people can basically understand how the alliance or system essentially runs

But you're also taking away the identity of groups who choose to be known as something specific.

For example, Goonswarm Federation is an alliance, How would you name that with the above criteria you mention?

Leave it as Goonswarm Federation? In which case whats the point of even trying to categorize alliances?

Or call it Goonswarm Federation Empire because the name is Goonswarm Federation and it could be considered to be run as an empire or dictatorship?...

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Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.08.29 05:27:00 - [1] - Quote Click Here for Full Article GNN will categorize alliances on a generalized basis, fitting the above basic descriptions. Confederacy: A confederacy is a corporation established which gives all collective parties equal say in their governance. Each specific group may have their own ideals and their own emphasis, but as a whole the Confederacy is united by their desire to accept people's diversity. Federal Union: A union is a corporation established which functions essentially as a top-down Republic, with functionaries carrying specific power and the ability to check the head, or leading clan / guild. The Union is united primarily by its dedication towards a broad set of perspectives, carried together under the guise of either a democratically elected or rightfully chosen (based on skill) leading organization / clan. The Empire: An Empire is a corporation established which functions basically as a military dictatorship. All corporate structures are defined by a singular identity, typically a leading clan or individual. The Empires are unique in their ability to direct resources toward one end; not requiring approval from various constituents; and this is the sole source of their power. Loose Alliance: A loose alliance is an informal agreement between two organizations. Typically if an Alliance cannot fit the above definitions, it is categorized as a loose alliance. This should not suggest these are the only categorizations; but this gives a general idea as to how some may end up developing.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.08.29 11:38:00 - [2] - Quote So essentially you're reporting things how you see them and now how the Corp alliance's them describe themselves? Fox News anyone?.... Just the sort of thing TheMittiani.com is fighting against.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.08.29 16:50:00 - [3] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: So essentially you're reporting things how you see them and now how the Corp alliance's them describe themselves? Fox News anyone?.... Just the sort of thing TheMittiani.com is fighting against. LoL
STB-Quickgloves EV SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 527	Posted - 2012.08.29 16:53:00 - [4] - Quote grev im online now if you wanna tlak
Arbor Viridanus Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 196	Posted - 2012.08.29 18:30:00 - [5] - Quote I would suggest that you NOT categorize alliances for people. It makes it seem like you're just making things up, which is not good for a news corp.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.08.29 18:33:00 - [6] - Quote Arbor Viridanus wrote: I would suggest that you NOT categorize alliances for people. It makes it seem like you're just making things up, which is not good for a news corp. Totally agree, I guess we shouldn't make it come off that way. It is good however to have general knowledge about how certain organizations are setup. If you'll notice the list I gave isn't much different than you'd get taught in a sociological, government, or history class: 1) They are basic setups of government that have existed in history (Such as the Roman Empire, the Confederate United States [though that is a bad example since I said they accept diversity], the Federal United States, and loose federations such as the United Nations) 2) They are general enough to the point that people can basically understand how the alliance or system essentially runs
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.08.29 21:45:00 - [7] - Quote Grezkev wrote: Arbor Viridanus wrote: I would suggest that you NOT categorize alliances for people. It makes it seem like you're just making things up, which is not good for a news corp. Totally agree, I guess we shouldn't make it come off that way. It is good however to have general knowledge about how certain organizations are setup. If you'll notice the list I gave isn't much different than you'd get taught in a sociological, government, or history class: 1) They are basic setups of government that have existed in history (Such as the Roman Empire, the Confederate United States [though that is a bad example since I said they accept diversity], the Federal United States, and loose federations such as the United Nations) 2) They are general enough to the point that people can basically understand how the alliance or system essentially runs But you're also taking away the identity of groups who choose to be known as something specific. For example, Goonswarm Federation is an alliance, How would you name that with the above criteria you mention? Leave it as Goonswarm Federation? In which case whats the point of even trying to categorize alliances? Or call it Goonswarm Federation Empire because the name is Goonswarm Federation and it could be considered to be run as an empire or dictatorship?...
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.08.30 00:32:00 - [8] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Grezkev wrote: Arbor Viridanus wrote: I would suggest that you NOT categorize alliances for people. It makes it seem like you're just making things up, which is not good for a news corp. Totally agree, I guess we shouldn't make it come off that way. It is good however to have general knowledge about how certain organizations are setup. If you'll notice the list I gave isn't much different than you'd get taught in a sociological, government, or history class: 1) They are basic setups of government that have existed in history (Such as the Roman Empire, the Confederate United States [though that is a bad example since I said they accept diversity], the Federal United States, and loose federations such as the United Nations) 2) They are general enough to the point that people can basically understand how the alliance or system essentially runs But you're also taking away the identity of groups who choose to be known as something specific. For example, Goonswarm Federation is an alliance, How would you name that with the above criteria you mention? Leave it as Goonswarm Federation? In which case whats the point of even trying to categorize alliances? Or call it Goonswarm Federation Empire because the name is Goonswarm Federation and it could be considered to be run as an empire or dictatorship?... The Soviet Union called itself a Republic..... That was the "R" in the acronym USSR.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 760	Posted - 2012.08.30 09:45:00 - [9] - Quote You've not answered my question.
BlacMage Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2012.08.30 10:04:00 - [10] - Quote Both China and North Korea are "Peoples republics" and they are the two least republic like of all current nation states. I completly disagree about not creating naming conventions. People can call themselves whatever they like, but if what they are in pratice is different from how they describe themselves, then their name is simply incorrect. If we went by the "no lables" model and only took nation states at name value then every nation in the world is a republic, save for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Naming conventions like OP's allow better and more accurate understanding of how a corp or alliance funtions in practice.

BlacMage Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 59	Posted - 2012.08.30 10:08:00 - [11] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: You've not answered my question. The Emperic Goonswarm Federation. There, was that so kitten hard?
TotalBreakage Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2012.08.30 11:18:00 - [12] - Quote I wonder what you would classify the EV as. btw I think you should an interview with the HiveMind. It would be great, i think many people would be interested to see an interview with the leader of the EV alliance.
Grezkev The Red Guards 100	Posted - 2012.08.30 16:41:00 - [13] - Quote TotalBreakage wrote: I wonder what you would classify the EV as. btw I think you should an interview with the HiveMind. It would be great, i think many people would be interested to see an interview with the leader of the EV alliance. We are working on that as our next interview, actually. Recently we got Quickgloves to speak on STB's plans and perspective on New Eden.
Aighun Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 666	Posted - 2012.08.30 17:00:00 - [14] - Quote Grezkev wrote: The Soviet Union called itself a Republic..... That was the "R" in the acronym USSR. That's because the Soviet Union was a republic, as opposed to a monarchy.


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