DUST Search - Please change the militia LAV to a BPC like the rest of the vehicles

Nova Knife wrote:

I get that you want to have everyone a 'starter' vehicle, but these things are nothing but free points and entirely harmless and useless, being spammed like a plague now that the other militia vehicles are no longer free. Every match I join I see countless militia LAV called in. Most of them I (or others) destroy before they can even be delivered by the RDV, making them nothing but a free 240 points. (+150 for RDV kill, +40 for militia LAV kill, and +50 for the kill of the poor sap who called it down)

Easy solution? Give every player 25-50 or so of these to start off, and then after they use up those BPCs, they will need to purchase them. 25-50 easily gives them time to see if they like LAVs and to train into them.

On the note of BPCS though, make the militia vehicles cheaper! For 'entry level' stuff, they are far too exspensive in relation to their effectiveness. There really isn't much point in buying the militia vehicles at all, right now when for a pittance more you get a vehicle that is twice as effective!

Drop militia dropships and HAV to like 40-50k each and we'll be in a good spot. Make Militia LAV 15-20k.


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Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.28 03:56:00 - [1] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I get that you want to have everyone a 'starter' vehicle, but these things are nothing but free points and entirely harmless and useless, being spammed like a plague now that the other militia vehicles are no longer free. Every match I join I see countless militia LAV called in. Most of them I (or others) destroy before they can even be delivered by the RDV, making them nothing but a free 240 points. (+150 for RDV kill, +40 for militia LAV kill, and +50 for the kill of the poor sap who called it down) Easy solution? Give every player 25-50 or so of these to start off, and then after they use up those BPCs, they will need to purchase them. 25-50 easily gives them time to see if they like LAVs and to train into them. On the note of BPCS though, make the militia vehicles cheaper! For 'entry level' stuff, they are far too exspensive in relation to their effectiveness. There really isn't much point in buying the militia vehicles at all, right now when for a pittance more you get a vehicle that is twice as effective! Drop militia dropships and HAV to like 40-50k each and we'll be in a good spot. Make Militia LAV 15-20k. i will disagree the maps are big i tend to use the starter vehicle to get around take out a proper free mode to get around these maps which btw are bigger than lolbf3 maps then u have ppl having to run endlessly from 1 objective to the other and with a stamina bar this is even worse than doin it on lolbf3 smaller big maps with unlimited stamina........not gonna go over well with peeps as u said they are mainly harmless so why make it a BPC? who has a complaint over these LAVs really to warrant it a BPC? agree with ur point on lowering milita costs but idk about tanks ive seens some well fit milita tanks soak up AV nades so idk if 40-50K is right for HAVs...maybe 75K and have dropships down to 50-60K right now no one uses dropships and when they do its comical to see them struggle to stay up with the new controls PS: CCP fix yo vehicle controls they suck badly...even tho ive gotten good with LAV handling it still needs options
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.28 04:14:00 - [2] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I don't have a problem with it, like you said. they are harmless. I don't see why they should be limited. The main reason for them being limited is because they are harmless, useless vehicles and all they do is clog up vehicle slots for people who want to call in more useful vehicles. They should be stepping stones. People should have a reason to upgrade them. There's no reason to upgrade a free item, even if the paid one is better. If people want to drive LAVs after they use up their free stock, they should have to pay for them. While they're paying for them, that gives them incentive to upgrade anyways. Don't get me wrong...I'm not complaining about them. I love the free points they give me. But at the same time, It's bad for the game. Free stuff is always going to be spammed. Free stuff that inhibits your team from using more useful, costly stuff is bad wrong. i always look at games the way they meant to be played and team based shooters i look at it from a team perspective and the only way u actually get a proper team perspective is via clans/corps so i will say u are wrong in the bolded part as it wont inhibit actual teams from using more useful stuff , this only inhibits ppl in pub games where TBQH randoms dont really give a **** about coordinating on any large scale or whats best for the team they play to have fun or play the way they see fit 90% of the time so making them paid just hurting the hisec arena tbh and there goes the casuals proper corp play this isnt a problem so should remain free imho i use the free lav to get around because my team is being generally useless most times so i go for a ride and cap the objectives that are unguarded instead of trying to fight a zerg rush. hoppin out to cap said objectives usually results in my transport gettin blown up or some teammate jackin it to get it blown up and that would cost me ISK
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.28 13:37:00 - [3] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: I agree with the OP, to many people use these to make up for their lack of skill, the only time they manage to get a positive KD is when they run ppl over constantly, moment you get them out of a LAV they go down in 2 seconds flat. Taxi shouldn't be free. LOL why arent ppl still not using AV nades? easiest double kill ever when someone tries to run u over tbh Free LAV is fine, as i stated above in corp matches intelligent teams wont spam this useless starter LAV and instead save for more important vehicles
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2283	Posted - 2012.08.30 03:13:00 - [4] - Quote game will be boring ppl will leave randoms dont use teamwork ppl will not run 500m to an objective this is a prime example of where EVE thinking will KILL the playerbase the problems u mention nova will not be an issue with proper teamplay but the change u are suggesting will hurt hisec pub games with randoms and casuals causing them to leave keep sayin it what works in EVE will not always translate well to a FPS.....ppl need to think about the broader community and not have everything especially hisec games meant for casuals to be a borefest