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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:02:00 -
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Now before anyone says anything, I am not condoning the actions of the ones who break the NDA, but recently with PSN+ getting free instant access, there has been a LOT of NDA breaking vids on youtube and even livestream.
Some (idiots) dont think to read the big capitalised "CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT" that appears after the ELUA, i imagine they just assume its another agreement that they can X through without reading.
I would suggest simply adding another line of text with the "CLOSED TESTING - work in progress" just to drive home the message.
thoughts? |
BlacMage
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:06:00 -
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Ban hammer. PS plus or not, break the rules and get banned. CCP has enough programing left on their plate that they should not have to worry about people not following the NDA. |
Kryshalis
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:08:00 -
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It happens with every beta. I suppose you could always send CCP the URLs of the videos/streams so they can ban the offending users. |
Jesse Jayne
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
206
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:24:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Now before anyone says anything, I am not condoning the actions of the ones who break the NDA, but recently with PSN+ getting free instant access, there has been a LOT of NDA breaking vids on youtube and even livestream.
Some (idiots) dont think to read the big capitalised "CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT" that appears after the ELUA, i imagine they just assume its another agreement that they can X through without reading.
I would suggest simply adding another line of text with the "CLOSED TESTING - work in progress" just to drive home the message.
thoughts? lol |
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GM Unicorn
Hedion University Amarr Empire
265
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:28:00 -
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Any NDA breach notification can be addressed to [email protected] , thank you guys! |
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
1005
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:43:00 -
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just sent in about 20 from the last couple of days :P |
Chris Gaechmoor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:53:00 -
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jenza
What does that = symbol mean on your avatar? |
dust badger
BetaMax.
283
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:54:00 -
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if you mean a grey box with an = in it, it means you have her as a contact |
Chris Gaechmoor
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:56:00 -
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dust badger wrote:if you mean a grey box with an = in it, it means you have her as a contact
thanks.. +1 |
Maximus Stryker
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
393
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:57:00 -
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dust badger wrote:if you mean a grey box with an = in it, it means you have her as a contact
enlightening, thank you
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.08.24 14:59:00 -
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Chris Gaechmoor wrote:dust badger wrote:if you mean a grey box with an = in it, it means you have her as a contact thanks.. +1
Netural contact at that.
+ Blue box is positive
- red is negative contact.
For example all the targets am taking note of currently have - red |
Arpentis
28
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:18:00 -
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just go on youtube click this month there's like fifty right there |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:19:00 -
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Watched a number of vids.
New player will often grab sniper rifle, try quick scope...
Grab swarm launcher, shoot at infantry...
Good times.
But maybe it is not all bad that these videos are out there. In this one right at 11:07 there is a perfect example of the hit detection/ latency/ scout suit problem that so many people have been bringing up over and over again on these forums.
The quality is terrible, but if you have a chance to watch it take the time to rewind that fire fight right around 11 minutes in and view it a few times.
You will see:
Really weird shifts in player perspective every time they scope, switch to hip fire, scope again.
The amazing teleporting scout! One player is lagging fairly severely and blipping around on the screen.
A clear and legit head shot that gets some shield flare on the scout, and does no damage!
These things don't happen often (to me at least, others may have nothing but games that are as bad or worse. Some players might never see these issues. Really no way to know) but they are really frustrating and make for choppy, disorienting, and crappy game play when they do. |
Norbar Recturus
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:33:00 -
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The video is in a foreign language, I'm assuming French, and I'm guessing that the player doesn't have a solid connection.
I do not have telleporting scout suits, but this looks like a case of really bad lag. |
carl von oppenheimer
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:51:00 -
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Well I tried killing another sniper and was shooting across the roof, except nothing happened because the building hit box is obviously large then the building. I did manage to die because I had to find a place where I could shoot without the fire line being diagonal to roof top and seems that the other sniper couldn't hit me either or he had to had worst aim in history. |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
666
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:56:00 -
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Norbar Recturus wrote:The video is in a foreign language, I'm assuming French, and I'm guessing that the player doesn't have a solid connection.
I do not have telleporting scout suits, but this looks like a case of really bad lag.
In France, I have heard that the Americans all speak a foreign language, 'merkanese. JK.
But yes, that is exactly what CCP are up against with a free game on the PSN. Players from all over the world with all kinds of connections. A number of European countries have top of the line internets, some don't. Some players in the States have horrible connections. Not sure about Canada or Panama or Bahrain...
When people talk about "hit detection problem" what do they mean? Are they really talking about lag? How do the servers compensate for all of that kind of thing?
But all of those videos offer really great feed back about how players play and experience the game. So hopefully someone will take a moment to look through them all and add that data to the mix when fine tuning the next few builds. Then maybe send in the Great Hammer of Banning +15...
*Edit Lag or no lag, in that firefight the player's shot clearly connects with the opponent's head, there's some shield flare. And the scout takes no damage. Whatever the cause, speaking just for myself, when that kind of thing happens I sort of feel robbed. Fortunately I usually seem to have great connection from my end and only see those kinds of things rarely. But I have seen them. |
OG DonHel
65
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Posted - 2012.08.24 16:07:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Norbar Recturus wrote:The video is in a foreign language, I'm assuming French, and I'm guessing that the player doesn't have a solid connection.
I do not have telleporting scout suits, but this looks like a case of really bad lag. In France, I have heard that the Americans all speak a foreign language, 'merkanese. JK. But yes, that is exactly what CCP are up against with a free game on the PSN. Players from all over the world with all kinds of connections. A number of European countries have top of the line internets, some don't. Some players in the States have horrible connections. Not sure about Canada or Panama or Bahrain... When people talk about "hit detection problem" what do they mean? Are they really talking about lag? How do the servers compensate for all of that kind of thing? But all of those videos offer really great feed back about how players play and experience the game. So hopefully someone will take a moment to look through them all and add that data to the mix when fine tuning the next few builds. Then maybe send in the Great Hammer of Banning +15... *Edit Lag or no lag, in that firefight the player's shot clearly connects with the opponent's head, there's some shield flare. And the scout takes no damage. Whatever the cause, speaking just for myself, when that kind of thing happens I sort of feel robbed. Fortunately I usually seem to have great connection from my end and only see those kinds of things rarely. But I have seen them.
There are even those few who have great connection who set up lag switches to gain advantages in matches. Used to have problems with this in some of the SOCOM games. |
ReGnUm GETsWASTED onCCP
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.08.24 16:13:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:just sent in about 20 from the last couple of days :P
Snitch |
Icedslayer
56
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Posted - 2012.08.24 16:20:00 -
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Ya i watched a few and posted that they where breaking NDA and will get banned if caught, one sent me a message back saying" i didn't see anything that said this was under NDA, so prove it" so i posted a link to the forum and said "you actually agree to it every time you sign in, so read next time". |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.24 16:44:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Now before anyone says anything, I am not condoning the actions of the ones who break the NDA, but recently with PSN+ getting free instant access, there has been a LOT of NDA breaking vids on youtube and even livestream.
Some (idiots) dont think to read the big capitalised "CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT" that appears after the ELUA, i imagine they just assume its another agreement that they can X through without reading.
I would suggest simply adding another line of text with the "CLOSED TESTING - work in progress" just to drive home the message.
thoughts?
this was always gonna happen very few ppl read GG CCP....told ppl this was gonna happen when u invite a bunch of random ppl to the beta, 1st IGN now PS+ and jenza tbqh ppl see the closed testing - work in progress that isnt gonna change their mindset on the game. Ppl are accustomed to more polished real betas and "demo betas" tbqh so only ppl to blame is CCP/Sony whoever genius idea it was to open it up to those crowds before they had something that is working right |
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Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:13:00 -
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They should organise an "only in Dust" competition like EA did with battlefield 3. Just make a big song and dance out of it, and legitimise it. If people can win 5000 AUR if their chosen, they'll be much less likely to breach NDA. Carrot vs Stick.
Then we might get awesome vidz.... Like this... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmBVltDnF_E |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
321
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:20:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Chris Gaechmoor wrote:dust badger wrote:if you mean a grey box with an = in it, it means you have her as a contact thanks.. +1 Netural contact at that. + Blue box is positive - red is negative contact. For example all the targets am taking note of currently have - red how do you change the way that box looks then? lol i have no clue and i always wondered why some people have that = sign as well... |
JonnyAugust
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
212
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:23:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:jenza aranda wrote:Now before anyone says anything, I am not condoning the actions of the ones who break the NDA, but recently with PSN+ getting free instant access, there has been a LOT of NDA breaking vids on youtube and even livestream.
Some (idiots) dont think to read the big capitalised "CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT" that appears after the ELUA, i imagine they just assume its another agreement that they can X through without reading.
I would suggest simply adding another line of text with the "CLOSED TESTING - work in progress" just to drive home the message.
thoughts? this was always gonna happen very few ppl read GG CCP....told ppl this was gonna happen when u invite a bunch of random ppl to the beta, 1st IGN now PS+ and jenza tbqh ppl see the closed testing - work in progress that isnt gonna change their mindset on the game. Ppl are accustomed to more polished real betas and "demo betas" tbqh so only ppl to blame is CCP/Sony whoever genius idea it was to open it up to those crowds before they had something that is working right
^this. |
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