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Stupid Drunk1
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Posted - 2012.08.23 22:54:00 -
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I stopped reading when he stated deflation, lols this is higly inflationary the new build, we did not get falling prices with more valuable wages.
In DEFLATION prices would collaspe, and we would be earning ISK in the dollar ammounts. IE The DouVel Rifle would cost 10 ISK, and you earned 3 ISK per match. Prices did not fall this build, and only looking at falling wages is not deflation.
This is higly INFLATIONARY where prices have been increased, in the ISK market; its the bad kind of inflation, since wages have not kept up to prices, hence the use of another currency AUR, that is, more valuble, thus granting cheaper prices in AUR compared to ISK Market. One could argue further there is a loss of confidence in the ISK in DUST essentially, so players are purchasing AUR because ultimatly, have no faith in ISK at this time.
I can already they tell you good sir, your the type who demands higher wages, because of higher prices.
Your not greedy, just being sucked dry, slowly, so to survive your the type who will demand more money because of " high prices" that we all live with. Inflation also transfer wealths to the hands of a few, the very rich LMAO who benefit from high prices since it acts as barrier to entry, for the poor new guys.
I can still buy with a 1921 Silver 1$ dollar minted by the US goverment, exchanged 25$ in 2012 Candian Dollars to purchase about 17 liters of Gas. 1$ from 1921 exchanged today can get 17 liters of Gas. Do that with a 1$ dollar created in 2012? LMAO
1$ in Cad is not enough to purchase 1 liter, I would still need 45 cents. I'll save in silver, and use that silver to buy basic nessecessities, I need, saving CAD you robbed blind. |
Stupid Drunk1
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Posted - 2012.08.23 23:48:00 -
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Leo Plaude wrote:
Jesus Jumping Jacks! I can't even read this without laughing and vomiting at the same time.
You are an idiot... There is NO player market yet... you can't resell anything yet... You can only use it or save it! The prices are FIXED by an observer (CCP), which makes this COMMUNISM... don't spread your capitalist lies here dog!
Jesus Elsavador Christobald!
Yes there is a market but the one monopolised by CCP buddy, and the prices were fixed higher by CCP which is inflationary. CCP could have fixed prices and what we earned out of thin AIR to anything they wanted. They could have stated the price of a Dou Vel with 10 fake internet dollars of ISK, or 100000000000000000000000000000000000 ISK.
Where did I state player market. We experienced Inflation deal with it, its why people are bitc/-/hing about being broke from new prices dude.
It has nothing due to with CCP creating player market, supply and demand, regional diffrences, selling, other sources of ISK.
Since PRICES went UP, without a corresponding rise in income it takes longer and longer hours to purchase the same ammount of goods and services so your standard of living in DUST 514 has fallen.
In last build everybody had a high standard of living in the monopoly CCP created.
AUR prices are also fixed to AUR ammounts, that players are chosing AUR because it is cheaper then using ISK to obtain goods and services in DUST. They have no faith in fixed ISK regime monopoly of CCPs at this time in DUST.
The very rich, skilled top1% benefit because its harder for the 99% because it acts as a barrier to entry. Which given last build everyone having everthing, is not such a bad idea that the 99% does not have all their toys beause they cannot AFFORD HIGHER PRICES |
Stupid Drunk1
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Posted - 2012.08.24 00:08:00 -
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free market system; not yet Maken, this is a pure monopoly of CCP in DUST, and its effects mimics New Eden, especially now in this build, with everyone going broke because of higher prices which is inflationary to the blindest eye.
Hence the P2W AUR so you will not go broke, because 11 AUR for the RODEN Assault is a lot more lower in price/deflationary then DouVel in ISK. 100 Roden Assualt rifle equal 1,100 AUR which is far lower in price/deflationary to ISK equivlents |
Stupid Drunk1
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Posted - 2012.08.24 00:58:00 -
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Leo Plaude wrote:Look, by the time DUST is released to the public as a full game, it will have (or at least should have) the infrastructure for a DUST/EVE market where players will BUY and SELL in-game items and the infrastructure for both EVE Player and NPC sources of ISK for DUST Players. CCP will have a moderate control plan based around pricing basic necessities (Militia gear for example, assuming they go through with BPC MIlitia) with the intent of keeping the joined economy stable and fun. 1. (click the phrase) In this video at 28:00, CCP states the market will not be player driven at the begining. Does this mean BETA or FULL RELEASE, we will see, as I want the supply and demand player markets, where manufactures, haulers, distributors, retailers, and the investors, and industrialists that come with suppling demand.Given they were already had Q&A testing DUST514, your scenario is not the likly oneBut this is the BETA. And as the BETA, they are testing things. People are bitc/-/ing about how they don't have enough money? That's true, in fact, I wish I had more cash on hand, but as a BETA the intent is for CCP to gather data about the way certain mechanics work... One of those mechanics they are TESTING is the ISK Fountain rate versus the ISK Drain rate.
1. As this round of testing is higly inflationary, because even you wish for more cash on hand because you judged based off of higher prices, you would want some more cash.I am both a business major and EVE industrialist. I am suspending all speculation on how the market reacts to CCP till I have a market to evaluate. This is not a market, this is a Socialist Allowance (ok I just made that name up...) and until I can give/receive money/items from a non-ccp entity, I will not consider this a market 1. You are re-writing what is a market. Here is definitions, you know, and each are markets. A monopoly (from Greek monos ++-î++++-é (alone or single) + polein -Ç-ë+++¦ß+û++ (to sell)) exists when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity .
This contrasts with a monopsony which relates to a single entity's control of a market to purchase a good or service, and then we have oligopoly which consists of a few entities dominating an market.
You trying to justify your definition, of which a more apt description of your position: could be that you would never volunteer to ever be involved with, the participation of any market individuals could not compete buying and or selling goods and services in the market.Also, as a side note. spending AUR in the beta is a joke to me. I'm sure CCP needs someone to test how much money players will put into their pocket, but I'm not one of them. So as a response to the original question, does the current economy favor P2W? No, I'm doing just fine without any AUR expenditures what-so-ever. 1. Your prooving the point, since the anyone can get fine on with out if they workerd hard enough given their ability, but does it enhance, shorten, favor one god given natural talent in DUST, is obvious Yes.
1100 AUR, equals 100 Roden Proto Rifles which is far cheaper nominally then its ISK equivlents. 100 DouVels nominally are far more expensive in ISK.
Rewrote diffrently RODEN Assault is a lot more lower in price/deflationary then DouVel in ISK. 100 Roden Assualt rifle equal 1,100 AUR which is far lower in price/deflationary to ISK equivlents |
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