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Leo Plaude
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.23 23:14:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:I stopped reading when he stated deflation, lols this is higly inflationary the new build, we did not get falling prices with more valuable wages.
In DEFLATION prices would collaspe, and we would be earning ISK in the dollar ammounts. IE The DouVel Rifle would cost 10 ISK, and you earned 3 ISK per match. Prices did not fall this build, and only looking at falling wages is not deflation.
Jesus Jumping Jacks! I can't even read this without laughing and vomiting at the same time.
You are an idiot... There is NO player market yet... you can't resell anything yet... You can only use it or save it! The prices are FIXED by an observer (CCP), which makes this COMMUNISM... don't spread your capitalist lies here dog!
Jesus Elsavador Christobald!
ISK economies are built on ISK Fountains/Faucets and ISK Drains. In the current DUST build, ISK Fountains come from fulfilling contracts which 'create' isk out of no-where. Then that ISK is invested in gear which (for the most part) is used up, creating an ISK Drain. It is as simple as that, and as complicated as Average ISK per Player, ISK Trade Volume, ISK Creation/Destruction Rate. If CCP can do anything right, it's Internet-Fake-Dollars (not to be confused with Monaclegate, which is RMT)
Until the DUST and EVE economy is grafted or the player market is started, there will be no source of ISK that isn't from CCP. deal with it. |
Leo Plaude
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 00:15:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote:Leo Plaude wrote:
Jesus Jumping Jacks! I can't even read this without laughing and vomiting at the same time.
You are an idiot... There is NO player market yet... you can't resell anything yet... You can only use it or save it! The prices are FIXED by an observer (CCP), which makes this COMMUNISM... don't spread your capitalist lies here dog!
Jesus Elsavador Christobald!
Yes there is a market but the one monopolised by CCP buddy, and the prices were fixed higher by CCP which is inflationary. CCP could have fixed prices and what we earned out of thin AIR to anything they wanted. They could have stated the price of a Dou Vel with 10 fake internet dollars of ISK, or 100000000000000000000000000000000000 ISK. Where did I state player market. We experienced Inflation deal with it, its why people are bitc/-/hing about being broke from new prices dude.
Look, by the time DUST is released to the public as a full game, it will have (or at least should have) the infrastructure for a DUST/EVE market where players will BUY and SELL in-game items and the infrastructure for both EVE Player and NPC sources of ISK for DUST Players. CCP will have a moderate control plan based around pricing basic necessities (Militia gear for example, assuming they go through with BPC MIlitia) with the intent of keeping the joined economy stable and fun.
But this is the BETA. And as the BETA, they are testing things. People are bitc/-/ing about how they don't have enough money? That's true, in fact, I wish I had more cash on hand, but as a BETA the intent is for CCP to gather data about the way certain mechanics work... One of those mechanics they are TESTING is the ISK Fountain rate versus the ISK Drain rate.
I am both a business major and EVE industrialist. I am suspending all speculation on how the market reacts to CCP till I have a market to evaluate. This is not a market, this is a Socialist Allowance (ok I just made that name up...) and until I can give/receive money/items from a non-ccp entity, I will not consider this a market
Also, as a side note. spending AUR in the beta is a joke to me. I'm sure CCP needs someone to test how much money players will put into their pocket, but I'm not one of them. So as a response to the original question, does the current economy favor P2W? No, I'm doing just fine without any AUR expenditures what-so-ever. |
Leo Plaude
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 15:49:00 -
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Stupid Drunk1 wrote: a massive wall of text
Oh my god, Drunk, seriously, you're making elementary students across the world embarrassed to say they went to school with you.
You do not know the definition of a Market. You defined Monopoly for some strange reason instead. Despite your reasoning, you cannot sell AUR gear for ISK so you cannot have an Exchange rate between the two currencies.
And this is an economic discussion about a game still in Beta for Frank Sinatra's sake and you didn't even change bullet points from 1 to 2...
And so that we do not get off the topic of discussion, back to 'AUR = P2W?'
I'm earning enough ISK per battle on average to field 2 fully fit dropsuits with minimal Militia modules (2-3) and field custom militia fits the rest of the time. The people I've noticed playing better than me used tactics, not gear to win. Blob warfare and controlled sniping as well as sound placement of squads has lead to more wins and/or kills than any one soldier in AUR that I know if.
The current economy favors the regular use of Militia gear with tactical deployment of more expensive and appropriate fits for the situation. A BPC Sniper fit (AUR/ISK) can kill a few people from a good perch before having to move or being killed. Likewise a good Squad can hold down a defensive point almost indefinitely when they are sufficiently supplied by Nanohives or a Supply point and do not break formation.
The only thing the current economy has changed in the ways of gameplay and fits, is that the non-starter-fit vehicles are too expensive to field and thus strategies that are often countered by vehicle based combat are becoming very popular and very powerful. I expect to see more use of Mass Drivers to break up Squads and an equilibrium of Snipers to be maintained as they canalize themselves. |
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