They do have a very obvious downside - They don't work against infantry. I'd call that balanced.

They also seem to take about a year to detonate.

They do have a very obvious downside - They don't work against infantry. I'd call that balanced.

Honestly, they seem OP now because HAVs were heavily nerfed before they buffed AV grenades. If HAVs were returned to their former stats with the new price increase to keep their usage in check, the AV nades would seem a lot less overpowered.

I actually agree with this

Again, as I've said in other threads, CCP can't keep nerfing things based on complaints about assets that don't have all their counters in place. I know that ignoring such things leads to pissed off whiners, but that's their problem.

I don't think they're completely op, i just think they don't have any good downside.

Some ways to fix this could be to make the number carried a bit less or to lower the damage to under 1000.

What's your opinion

If anything think of this as a joke thread because they're in all my fits

I don't think they're completely op, i just think they don't have any good downside.

Some ways to fix this could be to make the number carried a bit less or to lower the damage to under 1000.

What's your opinion

If anything think of this as a joke thread because they're in all my fits

1000 Sounds like a lot, and it is for LAVs, A HAV with armour module can have over five times that amount, so I guess it id up to what kind of build you are rolling... Maybe AV grenades could scale to type closer to how vehicles scale by level?

Right!
Not that a certain group using Gunnlogi tanks were redling folks match after match
And that group just had STB in there
And forge guns got a nerf
So lets nerf the only thing left that can maybe do tiny amounts of damage to the Precious
Not that your group has any vested interest in nerfing AV grenades

Hey I have an idea to fix the AV grenades!
I can just stand in the middle of the road to be cleansed by the tank treads of our tank overlords.

AV nades are fine
smart HAV drives know how to position themselves

before they were useless now they are actually useful and as someone said the downside is it doesnt work on infantry

lol HAV's nerfed? AV grenades op? lies the only thing is that you see alot of people rolling militia tanks with crappy modules. I rock now a soma with 5803 HP on the armor a 25% damage amplifier a repair module and a F45 damage controll unit.. To get more PG i got a 15% PG module and the weapons are a large missile turret with increased missile speed, 2 small missile turrets that can be fired every 0.8 seconds. If anything is in my way i blast them away with alot of firepower. And im still rolling the same tank for like 10 matches. ISK and SP vending machine if you ask me. And im going after a madrugar when i got enough ISK for the skillbook. When you face a well fit tank you cant solo it. I tried it and failed hard against a gunnlogi.

They were refering to me and Lurch... we owned every match tonight.. lost 1 Gunnlogi all day.. sorry you guys but i did pay for it so im going to use it... just saying... happy hunting mercs :-)

why were you kicked in the first place? better yet who kicked you and that will help me tell you if its cool or not.... we are actively recruiting so i dont know whats going on

They were refering to me and Lurch... we owned every match tonight.. lost 1 Gunnlogi all day.. sorry you guys but i did pay for it so im going to use it... just saying... happy hunting mercs :-)

I killed your gunnlogi with an installation since I decided to play possum just to see how you like being on the wrong side of the missile launcher.........sorry.

I got some special edition black ops HAVs as salvage and as soon as I manage a few million skillpoints to be able to use them then I am going to go tank hunting since those monster HAVs were free.

ahh i heard somethin about this.. yea we dont need spys or want spys it made you look bad and sounded bad on your part as well.... we have a force of guys in the beta that can run over guys with ease... i cant make any promises but i will ask and see whats up

I think I remember this.. actually i lost 4 tanks today... 2 was not being familiar with the map and i didnt see i was in the redline... embarrassed to admit that but wth i cant see that red ticker when it blends in with the screen my eyes just dont pick up on it.... i believe i remember the installation that killed me i thought we had them all took out and before i noticed my shield was dropping i was dead.... nice work props to you.... lesson learned take out all installation first.. thanks for making me a better tank driver havent lost one to an installation since :-)

Ok and don't see the spy business as weakness on the battlefield , I'm not a forum warrior unlike the majority of a clan that will remain nameless

btw that black ops hav will take more than a few million too.... dont think cause you have the tank you can just use it... it needs a decent fit or it will be an easy target... hope that helps you

are you calling us nameless? confused by what you mean.... im not a forum warrior either i just wanted to see the rage we caused... with our tank domination... read some of the forums posts you will see that too

Yeah besides the skills/fits its all in the tactics.

Theres a reason that installation you were shooting at refused to go down.

No not stb a different group i won't talk about diretly. Also my tank is a blaster/missle tank so ground troops get wrecked.

Unless theres folks like me around that enjoy killing tanks for the lols at folks loosing all that isk since all I run is militia gear.

And the lamest moment today was some HAV driver whos ride was about to go down and they suicide instead of dealing with the fact that I killed there ride.

what a welp... properly fit tanks have 10k-20k ehp and 1k damage grenade bothers you? really?
maybe dont drive mindlessly and stop camping a single spot then?

It does 2k and the most I've gotten to is 6k shields.
What a uninformed troll.

he is adding his shield rep to ehp - effective hit points.... i dont know about 20k maybe he is adding the resistance percentage as well ?

math too hard for you? once people get in sagaris tanks 15k effective shield hp will be very common (or armor if you get the gallente counterpart). lower tier tanks can also get to 10k total effective hp but it is really not my fault that you fit your tank with militia stuff

math too hard for you? once people get in sagaris tanks 15k effective shield hp will be very common (or armor if you get the gallente counterpart). lower tier tanks can also get to 10k total effective hp but it is really not my fault that you fit your tank with militia stuff

Right!
Not that a certain group using Gunnlogi tanks were redling folks match after match
And that group just had STB in there
And forge guns got a nerf
So lets nerf the only thing left that can maybe do tiny amounts of damage to the Precious
Not that your group has any vested interest in nerfing AV grenades

Hey I have an idea to fix the AV grenades!
I can just stand in the middle of the road to be cleansed by the tank treads of our tank overlords.

nice edit.. im not stupid either cant help your ignorance

No Nerf for AV nades. Simple.

you make me laugh come at me with your so called tank and get owned... and in response to what you have to say... i dont really care what you think you read the forums and see what they say im done here... ask around little friend you will soon find out

Just saying you people are all misinformed and need to play more EVE your effective hp is actually likely around 10,000

I explained the math in another topic but the short of it is this 4000 sheild tank + 25% resist x3 = 100 x 0.75 x 0.80 x 0.85 which infact yields around 51% resists, which means your effective hp would be 8163 effective hp, this is why AV grenades and millitia swarm launchers till do about 700 damage (350 x 4 / 2ish - 700)

guess im not the "stupid" one in here.... jack

Just saying you people are all misinformed and need to play more EVE your effective hp is actually likely around 10,000

I explained the math in another topic but the short of it is this 4000 sheild tank + 25% resist x3 = 100 x 0.75 x 0.80 x 0.85 which infact yields around 51% resists, which means your effective hp would be 8163 effective hp, this is why AV grenades and millitia swarm launchers till do about 700 damage (350 x 4 / 2ish - 700)

you are really sad, now you feel strong cause someone else "fights" for you hahaha, except his base shield values is wrong


I have an Eve account with enough isk to fund whatever toy I want in dust for the rest of my life =D
and your values are off because a sagaris will sit at atleast 5k shield hp =D

People start with the skill to use them, they're dirt cheep, and it's easy to 1v1 a vehicle with them