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Caffeine Sweet
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:13:00 -
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Ugh, this game is just sooo bad (just like my English, sorry)...
Not fun at all. How anyone at CCP can say that "anyone will be able to drop in game for fun 15 minutes" ? More like 10 minutes of reading and 5 of PURE frustration because he can't kill anybody.
Stupid finite weapons mechanic, way over the top learning curve, way too much text...
Dear CCP , please pay more attention to actual combat and more intuitive fitting. I know that devs don't allow words such as "MAG" or "Battlefield" or "CoD" or "Killzone" but plese CCP - look at this games and learn something about FPS. Like you know, it's just wrong that noob cant kill anybody or when veteran can kill a tank with just one burst from his rifle.
People wants actual FPS, not "EVE on foots". Again, look at BF3, and again, sorry for my English |
The Warbot
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:16:00 -
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Just keep playing and experimenting with load outs. Took me quite a bit to actually start killing anyone and going positive. Or just be a Logistic and support your teammates with armor repair, revive and supplies. |
Terram Nenokal
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:18:00 -
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I want Eve on foots. |
Caffeine Sweet
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:26:00 -
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The Warbot wrote:Just keep playing and experimenting with load outs. Took me quite a bit to actually start killing anyone and going positive. Or just be a Logistic and support your teammates with armor repair, revive and supplies. Support is good, but believe me, whole game mechanic is just too much complicated for average Joe. Its ok with EVE - people want it - people pay for it. But Dust needs bigger broad appeal if CCP hopes it to survive for more than just 1 year. What I want to say its just make it simple, make it clean, more like FPS, less like MMO. |
Caffeine Sweet
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:29:00 -
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Terram Nenokal wrote:I want Eve on foots. And Its ok, nothing bad with it at all, but look at WoW numbers and EVE numbers. I'am pretty sure that SONY and most of customers wants free to play, easy to use space shooter. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:41:00 -
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Caffeine Sweet wrote: Support is good, but believe me, whole game mechanic is just too much complicated for average Joe. Its ok with EVE - people want it - people pay for it. But Dust needs bigger broad appeal if CCP hopes it to survive for more than just 1 year. What I want to say its just make it simple, make it clean, more like FPS, less like MMO.
I disagree. If CCP wants it to survive for a couple years, maybe it would work to engineer it for the average FPS player. But if, like with EVE, they're building a business to last for a long time, they need something different. There's a bit of work that needs to happen making it easier to get into the game at the start, but that depth and complexity is necessary if they want to keep players around for years. |
Caffeine Sweet
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.22 22:56:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:Caffeine Sweet wrote: Support is good, but believe me, whole game mechanic is just too much complicated for average Joe. Its ok with EVE - people want it - people pay for it. But Dust needs bigger broad appeal if CCP hopes it to survive for more than just 1 year. What I want to say its just make it simple, make it clean, more like FPS, less like MMO.
I disagree. If CCP wants it to survive for a couple years, maybe it would work to engineer it for the average FPS player. But if, like with EVE, they're building a business to last for a long time, they need something different. There's a bit of work that needs to happen making it easier to get into the game at the start, but that depth and complexity is necessary if they want to keep players around for years.
I think that they started from the wrong end. IMO they needed to nail FPS mechanic first and than add things like EVE online support, ton of text about universe etc.
And first thing to do - scrap that finite weapons nonsense. IMO of course. But I would pay 60$ for full game and maybe few dollars more for customization ( hats from team fortress 2) but I can't justify paying for something that will disappear within few hours.
And of course - it just wrong and bad for the game that noobs cant' kill vets. I mean its o.k. in EVE or other RPG, but DUST is an FPS. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:05:00 -
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Caffeine Sweet wrote:I think that they started from the wrong end. IMO they needed to nail FPS mechanic first and than add things like EVE online support, ton of text about universe etc.
And first thing to do - scrap that finite weapons nonsense. IMO of course. But I would pay 60$ for full game and maybe few dollars more for customization ( hats from team fortress 2) but I can't justify paying for something that will disappear within few hours.
And of course - it just wrong and bad for the game that noobs cant' kill vets. I mean its o.k. in EVE or other RPG, but DUST is an FPS. It's like I've said other places: You start with the foundation. If it's not in the foundation, it doesn't get into the game. EVE integration, along with a bevy of other features, can't be added as an afterthought. It has to be there as you're building the rest of the game.
I think finite weapons is a good idea, not as an EVE fan but as someone who likes the dynamic it brings. Maybe you don't see it. That's okay. But it's part of the way the game works.
Also, why can't newbies kill vets? I'm terrible at shooters, and I often run in militia gear, but I do all right. |
FOAA
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:51:00 -
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I agree , finite weapon /etc is one of the best thing in this game !! imo , it makes it different than all those other shooters.. plus that non-sense about making more like other fps ! what the hell is that , I don't want something that's already there.. I think they are on the right path , sure there's still a lot of work to do. but you people need to get this ; It's a new game , first in it style or in a future serie. They didn't really make any money yet or whatever. so it's simply normal that they can't make the perfect game. You can't just ecpect a game company to come out with their first shooter and expect it to be perfect right away. But if fan stay with em , give them feedback and PLAY A LOT, it can only get better and better. Also , I say it's already pretty damn good for a first time shooter , and free to play ! ^^ I seriously plan on playing this game as my main shooter from now on.. The fact that the time you put in in actualy make you better is really cool to me. Not like in cod ( I love cod) , where you could play 6 months and then this noob come there , play for a day or two .. and then as all the same wepons and sh** you have !
Anyway , this game is AWESOME !! thanks a lot for bringing us such a cool game.. and PLEASE DO NOT listen to those saying you should take advice from other shooters ,, that's bull**** , what makes this game good is the DIFFERENCE it brings in the shooter world. If it wasn't like that I would even play it. All I could say is I'd like better graphics and shooting physics, but as I said I understand you need to start somewhere and I will gladly stay with you through the process as a fan of your game ! |
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